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Outreach & Events / 180326 KZSB SBAU radio hour with B JW CM AL TW 4th Tues March '18
« on: April 09, 2018, 04:26:35 PM »
attached: Raw audio from 180326 KZSB SBAU radio hour with Baron, JerryW, ChuckMcP, and AdrianL
bad notes:
180326 KZSB SBAU radio Baron JW CM AL TW 4th Tues
Earth sky: habitable zone around stars, too narrow? Cal-Tech, eliptical orbits, might have planets has brief periods of extreme heat, extremophiles might exist. jose alazar, deborah bryd.
CM-just us chickens
SpaceX picture, page 3, CM-old iridium satellites had reflective microwave antennas, new ones do not. B-10 satellites, how done? CM-all on one bus JW-get off bus line,...maybe spring off.
Pat sent CM message Flagstaff 6000 ft. LCO? CM-one at Sedgwick.
B-JW-worked at many research companies
906am music: "galileo used his tele for 1st time". B-intros AL, JW, CM BruceM on telephone, went skiing previous week. SBAU meetings have free planetarium show, food after meeting. AdrianL took VP job for 2nd time, leaving for Cal-Tech in 6 months. going to DPHS. B-any Katy Perry pics? AL-she donated recycle bin recently. B-CM schedule? 1st Friday meeting MKID speaker JW-turn light into electrical signals. 10th sci at Mtn view etc etc Sat, April 21 Astronomy day at Camino Real Marketplace.
BM-Tuesday Telescope Workshops. B-went to a school w/ Mezas once w/ kids running around. BM-lots of different types of telescopes. JW-telescope workshop: when people bring in a scope they get attention. BM-woman brought in a out of collimation telescope and TimC fixed with laser collimator. BM-small telescopes can be refract or reflector. B-can see Jupiter's moons? CM-some kids can see one moon of Jupiter. 69 moons total. Galileo. CM-Pope said to take it slow, but Galileo poked the dragon. B-how big? CM-2.5inches. B-BM-April 14 next theater pipe organ open console, concert at arlington in August. B-Cap Nemo at home with organ bothering neighbors? BM-no, pretty acoustically isolated. music: Gato Europa.
920am music: star trek enterprise theme B-Ashley Judd in one. SBAU talk. CM-SB Astro club merged w/ SBAU. TomT Astronomy comment, just scratching stars as to how they tick. AL-MKID speaker JW-super lattice detectors, but high temp super conducting detectors discovered. B-Prof Lubin has prototype micro space ships for sending to nearest star? B-why interested in Astronomy? AL-pretty good question, started when i was very young, so much to learn, new and extraordinary. Cosmology origins of the universe. BM-vacuum not a vacuum. B-what is it? JW-may be no analogy to describe it for us. B-JW-oddball in science class...father when 5, getting carried home, rural area, looked up at night sky (Sunland) and was amazed. B-saw 3 sisters in Orion, not moved in 60 years (CM-yes a little). CM-Australians call Orion belt and sword, the Frying Pan. BM-tour of Alice Springs and great sky pictures taken, so many stars. CM-center of galaxy is over S. Hemisphere. CM-in May, MW galaxy..
Sagitarius black hole, center of Milky Way. BM-see with radio telescope. B-AL you can grow up and be pushy likek the rest of us. BM-who says we have grown up?
music: "and the space ship flies thru the endless void of deep space...stumbled onto the embrace of a black hole..."
935am music: crew fall into a black hole. B-AdrianL launch SBAU calendar w/ TomT. JW is Pres, elected after hard fight. CM-appt position. Colin is Treasurer. B-what got CM into Astronomy. CM-got a Telemar junior, Newtonian 4", wobbly. sparked an interest. commuting to UCSB on Tues, Halley Comet coming, bought telescope. Met Pat and said another club in town, Dave Carry phd got CM into showing public night sky. standing on shoulders of giants to help find new things. Other internet crowd sourced astronomy available. getting people excited about astronomy. B-Astronomy mag? CM-no Sky and Telescope mag. B-be back to get BM. music: "once I had enuf mass, i became a star of gas"
945am music: Gato B-BM orbits? BM-C8 telescope with wide field view of sky, public outreaches w/ 5th graders or older, the ones that look and look. laser pointer points right to area to show them naked eye view. B-can you see the size of Betelguese? BM-just red. like to look at globular clusters. B-how close would stars be to each other? CM-maybe light-weeks apart. B-finding planets around stars, like our solar system. BM-average gal has 200B stars x 2T galaxies. huge number 10-23rd stars, must be at least that number of planets. B-why mass in cloud, circles around in clumps. BM-drawn by gravity, but not straight in, like satellites around earth. B-planets crash to make our moon, but we do not see it? CM-produces a hot cloud of dust that can be seen. BM- neutron stars collide. JW-remember why space is called space. B-trillions of galaxies? never see collisions? JW-just too far away. Next speaker will talk about those things. JW-coveted cup. music: Gato
955am music: star trek enterprise tv show theme. B-SBAU Museum of Natural History JW, CM, AL, BM. JW-appreciation of what looking at. B-pink on monitor that CM telescope camera picks up? BM-eyes not sensitive to color in dim light. B-star colors? JW-dull red to bright white. no green stars. Antares used to be thot green. but contrast effect with white star nearby. best view averted vision using side of eyes. B-Sun looks white? JW-sets what is white. B-Betelguese going to explode CM-TT says sometime after midnight. AdrianL-phd in astrophysics, but physics in undergrad. CM-astro day April 21..lost sound...BM-organ Aug JW-CalStar April 12 at Lake San Antonio overflow campground, have to avid astronomer, not an SBAU event, run by San Jose club. B-bus trip? JW-Science Center. music: Gato Europa.
bad notes:
180326 KZSB SBAU radio Baron JW CM AL TW 4th Tues
Earth sky: habitable zone around stars, too narrow? Cal-Tech, eliptical orbits, might have planets has brief periods of extreme heat, extremophiles might exist. jose alazar, deborah bryd.
CM-just us chickens
SpaceX picture, page 3, CM-old iridium satellites had reflective microwave antennas, new ones do not. B-10 satellites, how done? CM-all on one bus JW-get off bus line,...maybe spring off.
Pat sent CM message Flagstaff 6000 ft. LCO? CM-one at Sedgwick.
B-JW-worked at many research companies
906am music: "galileo used his tele for 1st time". B-intros AL, JW, CM BruceM on telephone, went skiing previous week. SBAU meetings have free planetarium show, food after meeting. AdrianL took VP job for 2nd time, leaving for Cal-Tech in 6 months. going to DPHS. B-any Katy Perry pics? AL-she donated recycle bin recently. B-CM schedule? 1st Friday meeting MKID speaker JW-turn light into electrical signals. 10th sci at Mtn view etc etc Sat, April 21 Astronomy day at Camino Real Marketplace.
BM-Tuesday Telescope Workshops. B-went to a school w/ Mezas once w/ kids running around. BM-lots of different types of telescopes. JW-telescope workshop: when people bring in a scope they get attention. BM-woman brought in a out of collimation telescope and TimC fixed with laser collimator. BM-small telescopes can be refract or reflector. B-can see Jupiter's moons? CM-some kids can see one moon of Jupiter. 69 moons total. Galileo. CM-Pope said to take it slow, but Galileo poked the dragon. B-how big? CM-2.5inches. B-BM-April 14 next theater pipe organ open console, concert at arlington in August. B-Cap Nemo at home with organ bothering neighbors? BM-no, pretty acoustically isolated. music: Gato Europa.
920am music: star trek enterprise theme B-Ashley Judd in one. SBAU talk. CM-SB Astro club merged w/ SBAU. TomT Astronomy comment, just scratching stars as to how they tick. AL-MKID speaker JW-super lattice detectors, but high temp super conducting detectors discovered. B-Prof Lubin has prototype micro space ships for sending to nearest star? B-why interested in Astronomy? AL-pretty good question, started when i was very young, so much to learn, new and extraordinary. Cosmology origins of the universe. BM-vacuum not a vacuum. B-what is it? JW-may be no analogy to describe it for us. B-JW-oddball in science class...father when 5, getting carried home, rural area, looked up at night sky (Sunland) and was amazed. B-saw 3 sisters in Orion, not moved in 60 years (CM-yes a little). CM-Australians call Orion belt and sword, the Frying Pan. BM-tour of Alice Springs and great sky pictures taken, so many stars. CM-center of galaxy is over S. Hemisphere. CM-in May, MW galaxy..
Sagitarius black hole, center of Milky Way. BM-see with radio telescope. B-AL you can grow up and be pushy likek the rest of us. BM-who says we have grown up?
music: "and the space ship flies thru the endless void of deep space...stumbled onto the embrace of a black hole..."
935am music: crew fall into a black hole. B-AdrianL launch SBAU calendar w/ TomT. JW is Pres, elected after hard fight. CM-appt position. Colin is Treasurer. B-what got CM into Astronomy. CM-got a Telemar junior, Newtonian 4", wobbly. sparked an interest. commuting to UCSB on Tues, Halley Comet coming, bought telescope. Met Pat and said another club in town, Dave Carry phd got CM into showing public night sky. standing on shoulders of giants to help find new things. Other internet crowd sourced astronomy available. getting people excited about astronomy. B-Astronomy mag? CM-no Sky and Telescope mag. B-be back to get BM. music: "once I had enuf mass, i became a star of gas"
945am music: Gato B-BM orbits? BM-C8 telescope with wide field view of sky, public outreaches w/ 5th graders or older, the ones that look and look. laser pointer points right to area to show them naked eye view. B-can you see the size of Betelguese? BM-just red. like to look at globular clusters. B-how close would stars be to each other? CM-maybe light-weeks apart. B-finding planets around stars, like our solar system. BM-average gal has 200B stars x 2T galaxies. huge number 10-23rd stars, must be at least that number of planets. B-why mass in cloud, circles around in clumps. BM-drawn by gravity, but not straight in, like satellites around earth. B-planets crash to make our moon, but we do not see it? CM-produces a hot cloud of dust that can be seen. BM- neutron stars collide. JW-remember why space is called space. B-trillions of galaxies? never see collisions? JW-just too far away. Next speaker will talk about those things. JW-coveted cup. music: Gato
955am music: star trek enterprise tv show theme. B-SBAU Museum of Natural History JW, CM, AL, BM. JW-appreciation of what looking at. B-pink on monitor that CM telescope camera picks up? BM-eyes not sensitive to color in dim light. B-star colors? JW-dull red to bright white. no green stars. Antares used to be thot green. but contrast effect with white star nearby. best view averted vision using side of eyes. B-Sun looks white? JW-sets what is white. B-Betelguese going to explode CM-TT says sometime after midnight. AdrianL-phd in astrophysics, but physics in undergrad. CM-astro day April 21..lost sound...BM-organ Aug JW-CalStar April 12 at Lake San Antonio overflow campground, have to avid astronomer, not an SBAU event, run by San Jose club. B-bus trip? JW-Science Center. music: Gato Europa.
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Outreach & Events / 180226 KZSB SBAU radio hour, 4th Tues, Feb '18, raw audio not cropped
« on: April 09, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »
download and listen to attached raw audio from 180226 SBAU radio hour, 4th Tuesday, KZSB the the Baron, JerryW, ChuckMcP, and TomT. Sorry did not edit audio or do text.
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Outreach & Events / 180312 SBAU radio KZSB 1290AM Baron JW CM AdrianL 2nd Monday
« on: March 15, 2018, 12:02:41 PM »
180312 KZSB SBAU radio show Baron JW CM AdrianL terrible transcript/notes:
00:00.000 B-brain trust guys coming in, except TomT and maybe CMcP
00:07.545 B-waiting for guys to show
00:59.652 CM is in; talk to Donny
01:39.891
02:00.010 Richard Dugan daylight savings time discussion, Ben Franklin? CM-doesn't buy you anything.
05:41.798 AdrianL shows up
05:50.050 Earth/Sky true polar wander, not mag field or plate tectonics. very small motion, geophyical theory, volcano may cause imbalance, causing land to shift in latitude. Earth outer layers shift 0.2% every 1 million years?
07:19.724 B-what shall we talk about? losing VP AL-school excuse, would be programming in engineering class. Booking speakers AL-April has been booked. JW-some speakers wait until last min. Isabel Lipartito, UCSB
09:51.014 music: Carl Sagan show. B-bought a patch from Pat. TT-doing planetarium shows. B-our future is leaving us, AdrianL, why not others from HS coming to shows? AL-usu busy on Friday nights. applied to CalTech in fall, wrote essays. AL-major not declared until after Freshman year, but likely Physics. B-schedule already? AL-not until Fall. B-China space station, CM-Chang deng one, coming down. 30x10ft cylinder. B-need those 2001 rotating artificial gravity stations. JW-high risk connections. B-was 2001 turning too fast? JW-depends on size. B-AL-interests? Cosmology. B-Gravitational lensing, last meeting, CM-using the Sun to bend light. JW-General Relativity tested that way. AL-from JPL speakers bureau.
19:28.510 music: fuzzy classical. B-welcome back to SBAU hour. JW, CM, AL - DPHS physics Miller. using Algebra, not calculus. JW-we used slide rule. B-any fractals? AL-we use graphing calculators. JW-exponents in logarithms AL-3yrs math required in HS. B-do they use tablets for school. AL-sometimes, but tests, just use graphing calculators. B-are daily news astronomy topics brought up in class? AL-yes, she was good about that. B-geo CM-very deep earth diamond mineral found. and another form of ice trapped inside the diamond. B-gases on earth become metals under deep pressure like on Jupiter. CM-metal usu means conducting electricity. B-Adrian, what is coming up. AL-next speaker on MKID (Microwave Kinetic Inductance Detector) w/ Ben Mazin at UCSB. ... B-Hubble on last legs, JW-James Webb is next one. CM-rocket on Hubble to bring it down, but think it should be boosted so Smithsonian can go get it one day. JW-10-12microns, infrared, we look like bright light bulbs in this room. JW-space telescopes compete with adaptive optics big telescopes on earth. B-always new stuff to see.
33:00.054 music: Chariots of the Gods instrumental. CM-cat on Pat's forehead. AL-will come back to talk B-you did Orbits, also Bruce. JW-Bruce, Farshad did solar system orbits over a long time period. B-pics from Cassini show flat rings around Saturn, why not a close up of a water crystal? CM-too dangerous JW-Shepard moons help arrange rings. B-gravity should pull rings into Saturn? CM-velocity keeps pieces in rings. JW-Roche limit tidal forces pull the particles apart. Stable orbits. CM-all the gas giants have rings. B-asteroids have moons? Cm-many. AL-Roche limit explanation. B-tidally locked? JW-similar CM-Roche limit explanation again, distance btw light objects vs. denser. B-Adrian, meet Mike Brown at JPL? AL-Kuiper belt. CM-IAU might call 140 objects as planets at next definition.
41:59.826 music: was a calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo used his tele for very 1st time... B-AU meeting April, 1st Friday. AL-usu 4 yrs at CalTech. B-Mike Brown class? AL-probably. B-join SBAU.org TomT does meetings tech in back. SBMNH hard to get into during construction. B-no displays of astronomical stuff, but there is on left side entering planetarium. JW-some museums have beehives inside walls. Chad is whales name. B-updates: Cassini, Juno around Jupiter wide orbit because CM-radiation intensity around Jupiter, 11x dia of earth. CM-radiation is particles trapped in its magnetic field. B-Pluto mission? CM-going for MUxxxx by Jan, 2019. Voyagers 140AU away. CM-kuiper belt is disk like, Oort cloud is more spherical shell around solar system. B-is our star typical? JW-yes for now. B-AL staying at JPL? AL-student housing. JW-danger of doing homework at last minute in class...some day it might require more time. CM-outreaches listing Astro Day April 21. music: Gato europa
52:59.373 music: Chariots B-Adrian what is exciting coming up? AL-James Webb JW-operational team runs 24/7 B-what to see? CM-edge of universe stuff. B-galaxies leaving us? CM-space expanding between objects higher than speed of light for far away objects. visible edge is Cosmic Microwave background radiation. Aerospace.org Corbs for orbital debris, relating to china's space station. JW-hard to predict. music:star trek enterprise
55:52.276 end of show
00:00.000 B-brain trust guys coming in, except TomT and maybe CMcP
00:07.545 B-waiting for guys to show
00:59.652 CM is in; talk to Donny
01:39.891
02:00.010 Richard Dugan daylight savings time discussion, Ben Franklin? CM-doesn't buy you anything.
05:41.798 AdrianL shows up
05:50.050 Earth/Sky true polar wander, not mag field or plate tectonics. very small motion, geophyical theory, volcano may cause imbalance, causing land to shift in latitude. Earth outer layers shift 0.2% every 1 million years?
07:19.724 B-what shall we talk about? losing VP AL-school excuse, would be programming in engineering class. Booking speakers AL-April has been booked. JW-some speakers wait until last min. Isabel Lipartito, UCSB
09:51.014 music: Carl Sagan show. B-bought a patch from Pat. TT-doing planetarium shows. B-our future is leaving us, AdrianL, why not others from HS coming to shows? AL-usu busy on Friday nights. applied to CalTech in fall, wrote essays. AL-major not declared until after Freshman year, but likely Physics. B-schedule already? AL-not until Fall. B-China space station, CM-Chang deng one, coming down. 30x10ft cylinder. B-need those 2001 rotating artificial gravity stations. JW-high risk connections. B-was 2001 turning too fast? JW-depends on size. B-AL-interests? Cosmology. B-Gravitational lensing, last meeting, CM-using the Sun to bend light. JW-General Relativity tested that way. AL-from JPL speakers bureau.
19:28.510 music: fuzzy classical. B-welcome back to SBAU hour. JW, CM, AL - DPHS physics Miller. using Algebra, not calculus. JW-we used slide rule. B-any fractals? AL-we use graphing calculators. JW-exponents in logarithms AL-3yrs math required in HS. B-do they use tablets for school. AL-sometimes, but tests, just use graphing calculators. B-are daily news astronomy topics brought up in class? AL-yes, she was good about that. B-geo CM-very deep earth diamond mineral found. and another form of ice trapped inside the diamond. B-gases on earth become metals under deep pressure like on Jupiter. CM-metal usu means conducting electricity. B-Adrian, what is coming up. AL-next speaker on MKID (Microwave Kinetic Inductance Detector) w/ Ben Mazin at UCSB. ... B-Hubble on last legs, JW-James Webb is next one. CM-rocket on Hubble to bring it down, but think it should be boosted so Smithsonian can go get it one day. JW-10-12microns, infrared, we look like bright light bulbs in this room. JW-space telescopes compete with adaptive optics big telescopes on earth. B-always new stuff to see.
33:00.054 music: Chariots of the Gods instrumental. CM-cat on Pat's forehead. AL-will come back to talk B-you did Orbits, also Bruce. JW-Bruce, Farshad did solar system orbits over a long time period. B-pics from Cassini show flat rings around Saturn, why not a close up of a water crystal? CM-too dangerous JW-Shepard moons help arrange rings. B-gravity should pull rings into Saturn? CM-velocity keeps pieces in rings. JW-Roche limit tidal forces pull the particles apart. Stable orbits. CM-all the gas giants have rings. B-asteroids have moons? Cm-many. AL-Roche limit explanation. B-tidally locked? JW-similar CM-Roche limit explanation again, distance btw light objects vs. denser. B-Adrian, meet Mike Brown at JPL? AL-Kuiper belt. CM-IAU might call 140 objects as planets at next definition.
41:59.826 music: was a calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo used his tele for very 1st time... B-AU meeting April, 1st Friday. AL-usu 4 yrs at CalTech. B-Mike Brown class? AL-probably. B-join SBAU.org TomT does meetings tech in back. SBMNH hard to get into during construction. B-no displays of astronomical stuff, but there is on left side entering planetarium. JW-some museums have beehives inside walls. Chad is whales name. B-updates: Cassini, Juno around Jupiter wide orbit because CM-radiation intensity around Jupiter, 11x dia of earth. CM-radiation is particles trapped in its magnetic field. B-Pluto mission? CM-going for MUxxxx by Jan, 2019. Voyagers 140AU away. CM-kuiper belt is disk like, Oort cloud is more spherical shell around solar system. B-is our star typical? JW-yes for now. B-AL staying at JPL? AL-student housing. JW-danger of doing homework at last minute in class...some day it might require more time. CM-outreaches listing Astro Day April 21. music: Gato europa
52:59.373 music: Chariots B-Adrian what is exciting coming up? AL-James Webb JW-operational team runs 24/7 B-what to see? CM-edge of universe stuff. B-galaxies leaving us? CM-space expanding between objects higher than speed of light for far away objects. visible edge is Cosmic Microwave background radiation. Aerospace.org Corbs for orbital debris, relating to china's space station. JW-hard to predict. music:star trek enterprise
55:52.276 end of show
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Outreach & Events / 180212 2nd Monday KZSB SBAU radio show Baron JW TW CM TT
« on: February 12, 2018, 09:53:31 PM »
180212 KZSB SBAU radio show Baron JW TW CM TT
00:00.000 B-TomT recording promo, forgot to mention 2nd/4th Monday radio shows. Brain trust wil be here.
00:52.930 Earth Sky mass of the Milky Way = 1.6T solar masses, based on speed of Leo I satellite galaxy.
02:22.817 ChuckMcP is here 200+ outreaches per year.
03:22.794 Donnie Telsa in space, etc. CM to record
07:43.529 Ratzo Midnight Cowboy TT everyone is a showman, Ben Ferguson, works at SB Honda. B-had a phase "B on the Prowl" was an idea, J. Cason set on the street.
09:37.062 SBAU radio show start: music-"It was a calm and cloudless night" Summertime 1609, Galileo...2nd Monday of the month gathering to break bread...TomW bread. TT TomW prof at Westmont, newsletter; Pres JW, Outreach Coordinator CM. TW-sourdough bakery in SF, 3 wheats, Central Milling, Petaluma. Teach lab Mon aft. JW sick 4-5days. TW-delayed start for Westmont due to fire and slides. 3rd Friday Star party at Westmont. B-angle of Milky Way? looking at center? CM-now, edge; summer-center. [Q: which direction of solar system is heading around the MW? Sun-N pole?] JW-Australia TT-blood rush to head. CM-explaining MW orientation in sky. TW-Orion belt stars on Meridian (equator?). CM-stories good to tell at planetarium shows. TT-CM several stories on Pleaides. Little Dipper. B-car into space? music-Gato
20:44.793 music-Gato Europa. B-off air conversation, no idea, dark matter, dark energy, universe getting bigger? CM- B-earth rushing up to meet you? JW-earth gravity feels like in a elevator. CM-Time may be slowing down instead of space expanding at an accelerating rate. JW-universe, random number of universes, we have the right fundamental constants. intriguing speculation. the scientific method. B-Hubble found other galaxies red shift. speed of light away? JW-cant travel faster than speed of light. but are some galaxies moving faster than SOL. CM-space itself can expand faster than speed of light. B-which direction? JW-only in respect to other things. CM-maybe a big rip in future. B-dark matter/energy diff? JW-not sure what it is. B-what is winning? JW-maybe other dimensions, time begins and travels in two directions. TW-Linday, at Stanford, talks about multiple universes. has to be tested. B-Geo Gamov 1,2,3 infinity book. diff infinities, geometric curves, like multiverses? JW-handy to have a few beers when discussing this. JW-Einstein had two principles to start...hunch, develop a theory, he thot some things would never be proved. Special Rel vs General Rel, tried for Unified Field Theory. JW-lots of books on this. B-bible does not mention. TT-sci method. JW-easier to just do physics. CM-Turtles all the way down.
33:46.058 music-once i had enuf of a mass i became a star of gas... B-pass a law that you can not send stupid stuff in space. car to land on mars? JW-just orbit out to Mars. CM-Musk wanted to show he could lift that much mass. [Q:what could you send up that would be good for science, but not too much cost to monitor?] Richard Dupree: Falcon Heavy.. CM-Saturn V was biggest. RD-Russian rocket is biggest? CM-Proton just man rated. JW-SpaceX going for that rating, w/ Dragon capsule. B-just 3 rockets tied together, nothing new. CM-but a new system. RD-BFR? JW-will lift a heavier load. B-moth on side of rocket? shuttle? CM-too dangerous. o-ring in booster, wing insulation problems. JW-Nasa was not concerned w cost cutting with reuseabiilty. CM-computers are better now.
41:27.394 music-Carl Sagan, on this shore, we have learned most of what we know....Cosmos is within us, we are made of star stuff...ship of the imagination...anywhere in space and time...come w/ me. B-Cosmos hour. TT-is the Tesla the fastest vehicle in space? B-17K low earth orbit, 25Kmph to leave earth. B-slingshot effect...some taken back? CM-yes, but use the angular momentum of the planet. JW-all the math to do that was developed in the 1600's. Newton Principia (sic) JW-1st explained his calculus. TW-math of change. JW-have sliderule in glass case in case of emergency...break the glass.. B-long formulas on board, can JW understand that? JW-doing some luminosity right now. B-is E=MC2 used now? TT-nuclear weapons research CM-solar physics. TW-doing labs Arduino modules permability of free space measured by coil mag fields extract value of Mzero(?) 10-5 Tesla...Gauss...TT-how strong is Earth? 1/2 Gauss. B-like deGausing? JW-unit of strenght. TW-German mathematician. music-as a spaceship files...strong embrace of a black hole...
51:01.794 music-Gato-Europa... B-share w vast audience, cosmos telsa TW-outreach at Westmont this Friday...hwy 192 is open from the W to Cold Springs...not sure about Hot Springs access up from Montecito. Find 5 pts circle..Eucalyptus hill rd comes up to just E of Cold Springs. B-how telescope compare to Museum's. JW-pulling dagger out..need to re-initialize. B-Beatrice Farrand Hall B-reverse Q lecture JW-save for potluck in June TT-keep standards up to Adrian Lopez's talk.
55:51.186 end
00:00.000 B-TomT recording promo, forgot to mention 2nd/4th Monday radio shows. Brain trust wil be here.
00:52.930 Earth Sky mass of the Milky Way = 1.6T solar masses, based on speed of Leo I satellite galaxy.
02:22.817 ChuckMcP is here 200+ outreaches per year.
03:22.794 Donnie Telsa in space, etc. CM to record
07:43.529 Ratzo Midnight Cowboy TT everyone is a showman, Ben Ferguson, works at SB Honda. B-had a phase "B on the Prowl" was an idea, J. Cason set on the street.
09:37.062 SBAU radio show start: music-"It was a calm and cloudless night" Summertime 1609, Galileo...2nd Monday of the month gathering to break bread...TomW bread. TT TomW prof at Westmont, newsletter; Pres JW, Outreach Coordinator CM. TW-sourdough bakery in SF, 3 wheats, Central Milling, Petaluma. Teach lab Mon aft. JW sick 4-5days. TW-delayed start for Westmont due to fire and slides. 3rd Friday Star party at Westmont. B-angle of Milky Way? looking at center? CM-now, edge; summer-center. [Q: which direction of solar system is heading around the MW? Sun-N pole?] JW-Australia TT-blood rush to head. CM-explaining MW orientation in sky. TW-Orion belt stars on Meridian (equator?). CM-stories good to tell at planetarium shows. TT-CM several stories on Pleaides. Little Dipper. B-car into space? music-Gato
20:44.793 music-Gato Europa. B-off air conversation, no idea, dark matter, dark energy, universe getting bigger? CM- B-earth rushing up to meet you? JW-earth gravity feels like in a elevator. CM-Time may be slowing down instead of space expanding at an accelerating rate. JW-universe, random number of universes, we have the right fundamental constants. intriguing speculation. the scientific method. B-Hubble found other galaxies red shift. speed of light away? JW-cant travel faster than speed of light. but are some galaxies moving faster than SOL. CM-space itself can expand faster than speed of light. B-which direction? JW-only in respect to other things. CM-maybe a big rip in future. B-dark matter/energy diff? JW-not sure what it is. B-what is winning? JW-maybe other dimensions, time begins and travels in two directions. TW-Linday, at Stanford, talks about multiple universes. has to be tested. B-Geo Gamov 1,2,3 infinity book. diff infinities, geometric curves, like multiverses? JW-handy to have a few beers when discussing this. JW-Einstein had two principles to start...hunch, develop a theory, he thot some things would never be proved. Special Rel vs General Rel, tried for Unified Field Theory. JW-lots of books on this. B-bible does not mention. TT-sci method. JW-easier to just do physics. CM-Turtles all the way down.
33:46.058 music-once i had enuf of a mass i became a star of gas... B-pass a law that you can not send stupid stuff in space. car to land on mars? JW-just orbit out to Mars. CM-Musk wanted to show he could lift that much mass. [Q:what could you send up that would be good for science, but not too much cost to monitor?] Richard Dupree: Falcon Heavy.. CM-Saturn V was biggest. RD-Russian rocket is biggest? CM-Proton just man rated. JW-SpaceX going for that rating, w/ Dragon capsule. B-just 3 rockets tied together, nothing new. CM-but a new system. RD-BFR? JW-will lift a heavier load. B-moth on side of rocket? shuttle? CM-too dangerous. o-ring in booster, wing insulation problems. JW-Nasa was not concerned w cost cutting with reuseabiilty. CM-computers are better now.
41:27.394 music-Carl Sagan, on this shore, we have learned most of what we know....Cosmos is within us, we are made of star stuff...ship of the imagination...anywhere in space and time...come w/ me. B-Cosmos hour. TT-is the Tesla the fastest vehicle in space? B-17K low earth orbit, 25Kmph to leave earth. B-slingshot effect...some taken back? CM-yes, but use the angular momentum of the planet. JW-all the math to do that was developed in the 1600's. Newton Principia (sic) JW-1st explained his calculus. TW-math of change. JW-have sliderule in glass case in case of emergency...break the glass.. B-long formulas on board, can JW understand that? JW-doing some luminosity right now. B-is E=MC2 used now? TT-nuclear weapons research CM-solar physics. TW-doing labs Arduino modules permability of free space measured by coil mag fields extract value of Mzero(?) 10-5 Tesla...Gauss...TT-how strong is Earth? 1/2 Gauss. B-like deGausing? JW-unit of strenght. TW-German mathematician. music-as a spaceship files...strong embrace of a black hole...
51:01.794 music-Gato-Europa... B-share w vast audience, cosmos telsa TW-outreach at Westmont this Friday...hwy 192 is open from the W to Cold Springs...not sure about Hot Springs access up from Montecito. Find 5 pts circle..Eucalyptus hill rd comes up to just E of Cold Springs. B-how telescope compare to Museum's. JW-pulling dagger out..need to re-initialize. B-Beatrice Farrand Hall B-reverse Q lecture JW-save for potluck in June TT-keep standards up to Adrian Lopez's talk.
55:51.186 end
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Outreach & Events / 180122 KZSB SBAU radio show Baron, JW, CM, BM, TT 55 minutes
« on: January 27, 2018, 01:39:56 PM »
180122 KZSB SBAU radio show Baron, JW, CM, BM, TT 55 minutes attached
00:00.000 TT Baron Style section of paper
01:44.533 Jerry barber
02:44.206 Baron theory on speed vs. limits, bulb-outs
06:22.725 intros, Adrian
08:10.785 9am show start music, Carl Sagan quote wait, intros, SBAU 1st Fri meets, planetarium show, speaker, then eat! BruceM, AdrianL astrophysics summer science, orbits; BruceM, orbit talk in Dec, set up scope; JW-scope 25W bulb left in backyard. CM-acromat 2 lense refractor JW, catadioptrics. SBMNH 2nd Sat Star party. SkyGlow vs Camino marketplace. JW-show Sun Astro day. JW-toddler at telescope difficult to see thru eyepiece BM-moon light on face. CM-winter lots of objects to see in night sky. TT-Valentines show at planetarium, Feb 10. B-want to see Huygens landing on Titan, 17min landing, CM-condensed from 2.5 hrs. B-rocks of ice, shadow of parachute. TT-oceans JW-hydrocarbons TT-spacesuit -281F JW-suck heat away quickly challenging suit. B-coldest place in solar system, CM-crater on moon. B-Mercury poles? 564-1290
21:04.558 music: BM joining us on phone, Carl Sagan quote: contemplation of cosmos. BM-have a CS book. B-now Degrass Tyson. JW-$30K/visit. echoes? TT-2nd Sat, 3rd Fri Westmont, Tele Tues, Los Flores Ranch Park? CM-Palmer road smelled like petroleum. B-Thatcher school obs, TT-good to have other scopes as well. JW-BM rewired SBMNH Palmer Obs grounds. bad grnd may corrupt data. now will reset programs. MikeC w/ BM electr eng reset software needed. B-Museum Obs is down so some light pollution blocked. JW-trees help and hurt view. B-hard to Vandenberg launches w/ trees. JW-balcony at home as good view. BM-bluffs at IV give good view. B-anyone built Obs? JW-all the time. CM-roll off roofs. B-cold? JW-SB not bad. BM-I wear ski clothes. 8 inch C8 telescope. better than Westmont obs. CM-focus may be bad in obs. B-Q: Galileo, 2 lenses Jw-2inch, now only mirrors? JW-no both types. B-Hubble has lid on it TT-8ft diameter mirror, . BM-weight of refractor lenses are very heavy. CM-catadioptric has a front glass to prebend light for color correction. adaptive optics. Music: star of gas
33:28.989 music: as a spaceship flys, endless space, strong embrace of black hole, the engine dies... B-where to take a bus trip? CM-CCAS took trip to Mt Wilson, used telescope, price? JW-used to live near there as a kid. B-Hale? JW-Hubble used the telescope. B-dark matter back then? JW-if he knew Fritz Zwicky. determined missing mass. B-how calc 4M mass of galaxy BH? CM-stars orbiting around it. TT-event horizon telescope? CM-radio telescope. TT-$1000/ 1/2 night 60" telescope at Mt. Wilson. $2700 for !/2 night 100" scope. music: Star Trek enterprise...been a long time...see my dreams come alive...not going to hold me down...faith of the heart...
41:00.697 music: friends of the soul... B-pres of local organ society BM-just had newcomers club, typ. 2nd Sat morning at Arlington, about 170 members. B-let us combine clubs BM-would raise average age. B-June party? potluck JW-skip meeting. CM-June 1, 2018. B-once I get JW picture, Life section pic. Astro types dont join clubs? JW-in context, we have Messier Marathon contest in March, faint fuzzy objects. Comets, Astronomers got paid for finding comets by royalty as they foretold events. Usu show the public. halley comet, 76 yrs. In March, all 110 objects could be found from sunset to sunrise. B-lady has a list. JW-may be a mistake in list CM-M40. BM-has 110 pics of them. B-southern hemisphere? CM-Caldwell list. local group JW-some galaxies coming together. B-Andromeda, 4B yrs, do not actually hit? TT-big rubber band btw us.
49:51.829 music Gato Barberari Europa. B-reopening freeway today Jan22 (actually a day earlier). TT-hydromulch. B-Chia pet. global warming TT-CO2 up 33% in last hundred years. B-170 members. BM-Organ society meets at open console 2nd Sat. B-Hal Conklin? BM-not often, like Dale Loudermilk for SBAU. B-what to look at? TT-constellation, early evenings. JW-Blue Comet BM-mag13. B-all comets regular? JW-no B-jupiter stucks up some space debris? CM-works like two edge sword. B- music TT-telescope workshops Tuesday nights.
00:00.000 TT Baron Style section of paper
01:44.533 Jerry barber
02:44.206 Baron theory on speed vs. limits, bulb-outs
06:22.725 intros, Adrian
08:10.785 9am show start music, Carl Sagan quote wait, intros, SBAU 1st Fri meets, planetarium show, speaker, then eat! BruceM, AdrianL astrophysics summer science, orbits; BruceM, orbit talk in Dec, set up scope; JW-scope 25W bulb left in backyard. CM-acromat 2 lense refractor JW, catadioptrics. SBMNH 2nd Sat Star party. SkyGlow vs Camino marketplace. JW-show Sun Astro day. JW-toddler at telescope difficult to see thru eyepiece BM-moon light on face. CM-winter lots of objects to see in night sky. TT-Valentines show at planetarium, Feb 10. B-want to see Huygens landing on Titan, 17min landing, CM-condensed from 2.5 hrs. B-rocks of ice, shadow of parachute. TT-oceans JW-hydrocarbons TT-spacesuit -281F JW-suck heat away quickly challenging suit. B-coldest place in solar system, CM-crater on moon. B-Mercury poles? 564-1290
21:04.558 music: BM joining us on phone, Carl Sagan quote: contemplation of cosmos. BM-have a CS book. B-now Degrass Tyson. JW-$30K/visit. echoes? TT-2nd Sat, 3rd Fri Westmont, Tele Tues, Los Flores Ranch Park? CM-Palmer road smelled like petroleum. B-Thatcher school obs, TT-good to have other scopes as well. JW-BM rewired SBMNH Palmer Obs grounds. bad grnd may corrupt data. now will reset programs. MikeC w/ BM electr eng reset software needed. B-Museum Obs is down so some light pollution blocked. JW-trees help and hurt view. B-hard to Vandenberg launches w/ trees. JW-balcony at home as good view. BM-bluffs at IV give good view. B-anyone built Obs? JW-all the time. CM-roll off roofs. B-cold? JW-SB not bad. BM-I wear ski clothes. 8 inch C8 telescope. better than Westmont obs. CM-focus may be bad in obs. B-Q: Galileo, 2 lenses Jw-2inch, now only mirrors? JW-no both types. B-Hubble has lid on it TT-8ft diameter mirror, . BM-weight of refractor lenses are very heavy. CM-catadioptric has a front glass to prebend light for color correction. adaptive optics. Music: star of gas
33:28.989 music: as a spaceship flys, endless space, strong embrace of black hole, the engine dies... B-where to take a bus trip? CM-CCAS took trip to Mt Wilson, used telescope, price? JW-used to live near there as a kid. B-Hale? JW-Hubble used the telescope. B-dark matter back then? JW-if he knew Fritz Zwicky. determined missing mass. B-how calc 4M mass of galaxy BH? CM-stars orbiting around it. TT-event horizon telescope? CM-radio telescope. TT-$1000/ 1/2 night 60" telescope at Mt. Wilson. $2700 for !/2 night 100" scope. music: Star Trek enterprise...been a long time...see my dreams come alive...not going to hold me down...faith of the heart...
41:00.697 music: friends of the soul... B-pres of local organ society BM-just had newcomers club, typ. 2nd Sat morning at Arlington, about 170 members. B-let us combine clubs BM-would raise average age. B-June party? potluck JW-skip meeting. CM-June 1, 2018. B-once I get JW picture, Life section pic. Astro types dont join clubs? JW-in context, we have Messier Marathon contest in March, faint fuzzy objects. Comets, Astronomers got paid for finding comets by royalty as they foretold events. Usu show the public. halley comet, 76 yrs. In March, all 110 objects could be found from sunset to sunrise. B-lady has a list. JW-may be a mistake in list CM-M40. BM-has 110 pics of them. B-southern hemisphere? CM-Caldwell list. local group JW-some galaxies coming together. B-Andromeda, 4B yrs, do not actually hit? TT-big rubber band btw us.
49:51.829 music Gato Barberari Europa. B-reopening freeway today Jan22 (actually a day earlier). TT-hydromulch. B-Chia pet. global warming TT-CO2 up 33% in last hundred years. B-170 members. BM-Organ society meets at open console 2nd Sat. B-Hal Conklin? BM-not often, like Dale Loudermilk for SBAU. B-what to look at? TT-constellation, early evenings. JW-Blue Comet BM-mag13. B-all comets regular? JW-no B-jupiter stucks up some space debris? CM-works like two edge sword. B- music TT-telescope workshops Tuesday nights.
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Outreach & Events / 171225 KZSB SBAU radio show BaRonH JerryW PatF ChuckMcP PatMcP TomT
« on: December 31, 2017, 10:04:25 AM »
171225 KZSB SBAU radio show BaRonH JerryW PatF ChuckMcP PatMcP TomT. Show repeated and recorded 3am Sunday Dec 31, 2017
01:29.940 music jingling bells and galileo; Ed Giron TT mentioned SkyGlow 1st Fri meet Jan 5, CM Bacara, Ed repeats 12 days of Gratitude made by Mayor and Friar; Ron gets fruit cake from Jerry Wilson & Pat Forgerty.
10:19.040 music jingling bells, Ron opens fruit cake container. PatF Friendship Center Chair, also Consulting: Path Forward. PatMcP merchandising manager, bookmarks, calendar. JW-AdrianL upcoming talk Summer Astro camp science, going to college next year. SBAU meeting Jan 5 Skyglow. B-upcoming space rockets James Webb. JW-infrared telescope, Hubble visible above atmosphere to prevent wiggle, now adaptive optics "rubber mirrors". CM-lasers sodium artificial stars. B-data has to be converted? JW-false color can be changed. infrared googles vs starlight amplifiers.
22:45.249 music. Xmas AU hour Bringing in Pats. TT-564-1290 to tell us about their new telescope. B-stories of old xmas's. We were poor, Lubbock Tx, wanted a big train set...got a tiny one. As teen asked for microscope, pond scum. Did you have telescopes before meeting husbands. PatMcP, no, but Dad pointed out big dipper, etc. married? CM-seems like forever! CM-had a orange C8 telescope. PMcP friend dated CM first. PM would tell folks about constellations. B-Orion 3 stars. PatF-1st date, leaving Biltmore 4 Seasons, JW started pointing out stars. After marriage, telescopes populating house. music: galileo used his telescope...
32:14.652 music Gato Europa CM- B-saw CC prof on TV. SB Star Cluster started 1955. CM-other clubs, meet at expos. Two Pats married to astronomers. B-dinner talk on astronomy or ? B-tunnel on moon, CM-lava tube. planetarium shows. Incoming rocks Oumuamua. phone call Peter Olmos? opinion on humans only creatures in universe looking up at stars? CM-Yes, but not coming here to make crop circles. JW-life is sparse and short lived CM-we work on killing ourselves. B-supernovas CM-stat 300B stars in our galaxy w/ planets. CM-technology may not be best for life as we work on poisoning ourselves. JW-we may have lucked out w/ another planet hitting earth for our spin. Carl Sagan said single cell life easier than multicellular. B-signal from alien civilization? JW-could be pretty old.
42:12.388 music star trek its been a long road... B-life is good, i have a fruitcake. Javier knows his stuff? CM-Yes. Richard Dupree called How come stars have 5 pts? B-telescopes show 4 JW-Newtonian telescopes have 4 vanes holding secondary mirror. refractors do not have. B-smiley face? Gravitational lensing. RD-man in the moon, but Japan says rabbit. B-what is coming up TT-Skyglow
47:21 end of show minus commercials
01:29.940 music jingling bells and galileo; Ed Giron TT mentioned SkyGlow 1st Fri meet Jan 5, CM Bacara, Ed repeats 12 days of Gratitude made by Mayor and Friar; Ron gets fruit cake from Jerry Wilson & Pat Forgerty.
10:19.040 music jingling bells, Ron opens fruit cake container. PatF Friendship Center Chair, also Consulting: Path Forward. PatMcP merchandising manager, bookmarks, calendar. JW-AdrianL upcoming talk Summer Astro camp science, going to college next year. SBAU meeting Jan 5 Skyglow. B-upcoming space rockets James Webb. JW-infrared telescope, Hubble visible above atmosphere to prevent wiggle, now adaptive optics "rubber mirrors". CM-lasers sodium artificial stars. B-data has to be converted? JW-false color can be changed. infrared googles vs starlight amplifiers.
22:45.249 music. Xmas AU hour Bringing in Pats. TT-564-1290 to tell us about their new telescope. B-stories of old xmas's. We were poor, Lubbock Tx, wanted a big train set...got a tiny one. As teen asked for microscope, pond scum. Did you have telescopes before meeting husbands. PatMcP, no, but Dad pointed out big dipper, etc. married? CM-seems like forever! CM-had a orange C8 telescope. PMcP friend dated CM first. PM would tell folks about constellations. B-Orion 3 stars. PatF-1st date, leaving Biltmore 4 Seasons, JW started pointing out stars. After marriage, telescopes populating house. music: galileo used his telescope...
32:14.652 music Gato Europa CM- B-saw CC prof on TV. SB Star Cluster started 1955. CM-other clubs, meet at expos. Two Pats married to astronomers. B-dinner talk on astronomy or ? B-tunnel on moon, CM-lava tube. planetarium shows. Incoming rocks Oumuamua. phone call Peter Olmos? opinion on humans only creatures in universe looking up at stars? CM-Yes, but not coming here to make crop circles. JW-life is sparse and short lived CM-we work on killing ourselves. B-supernovas CM-stat 300B stars in our galaxy w/ planets. CM-technology may not be best for life as we work on poisoning ourselves. JW-we may have lucked out w/ another planet hitting earth for our spin. Carl Sagan said single cell life easier than multicellular. B-signal from alien civilization? JW-could be pretty old.
42:12.388 music star trek its been a long road... B-life is good, i have a fruitcake. Javier knows his stuff? CM-Yes. Richard Dupree called How come stars have 5 pts? B-telescopes show 4 JW-Newtonian telescopes have 4 vanes holding secondary mirror. refractors do not have. B-smiley face? Gravitational lensing. RD-man in the moon, but Japan says rabbit. B-what is coming up TT-Skyglow
47:21 end of show minus commercials
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Outreach & Events / 170925 SBAU radio KZSB 1290am BaRon, JW, CM, BM, TT; Saturn Roche limit, notes
« on: September 28, 2017, 01:29:55 PM »
170925 SBAU radio KZSB 1290am BaRon, JerryW, ChuckMcP, TomT, BruceM sloppy notes:
00:00.000 Baron-saw Mark Giles? John Denver music; ChuckMcP in studio, over anti-biotics, B still doing his. Cassini dived into Saturn, Juno circling big planet, C-deliberate orbit to avoid radiation. B-Webb telescope segmented. C-AU 1983 start, joined 1987
02:44.021 Earth Sky 2012 Volcanos caused cooling 1380AD, made little ice age 1600s, not change in Sun. John Denver playing in background w/ Beatles.
04:29.239 TT in Chevy Spark, Donny re: John Palminteri ships in channel
06:53.630 music B-we will catch up on probes in space
07:14.656 music B-AM1290, only club I have joined, Key club in HS not in, but editor of paper. Did mobile DJ for reunion. compare JW Pres style to TT C-calm and collected B-but what is JW's. B-photos for calendar, JW eclipse, JW-Flickr ones best. B-Bacara changing owners, when SBAU outreaches? C-June-Aug Thursdays. TT-hopefully in 2018 also. C-Sedgwick for UCLA Thurs. B-Steve: you were member of club, breakfast club
11:36.305 music: "it was calm and cloudless night" Galileo 1609. B- TT singing along, JW- SBRS, CMcP-TT outreach in Wyoming, BruceM 127 outreaches last year, B-how to get into Bacara? JW-security gate question "here for astronomy". B-Summer start at 8pm? CM-depends on moon, planets. B-gray haired group JW-more than one HS'er. BM- theater organ usually 2nd Sat, SBTOS.org. retired EE. [JW-taking pic] B-Cassini wake, CM-13 years around Saturn. B-slingshot around planet, seems it would whip you 180deg? JW-depends on distance from planet BM-gravity diminishes Dist squared. CM-suck momentum out of planet. TT-launch 1997, but how many years before in planning? JW-many. B-Galileo ever found out what ears of Saturn were? CM-not likely. TT-Kittens going around Saturn, 60 of them in outer rings, moonlets. JW-too close to Saturn, under Roche limit [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit] JW-two objects, slightly different orbits, gravitational attract of larger object vs. coming apart CM-depends on what the object is made of; B-is Roche on that list of famous astronomers for the calendar? CM- No. B-Mars moons, tidally locked go farther away, vs non-tidally locked? Mercury JW-2:3 resonance? pull into Sun? CM-elliptical orbit precesses. B-T always on cell (tablet). music Gato B jazz.
21:43.533 music: "it has a been a long road, a long time, time is finaly here" Star Trek Enterprise. TT-new Star Trek show Discovery, on CBS all-access for $$. TT-summary of first show, lady related to Spock Father 10 yrs before original show, Klingons. B-Cassini break up? JW-breaks up, heat vs. oxidation. plasma [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)] B-BM how many telescopes? BM-2 C8, 1-5" Maksutov. B-talk about star parties. Cannot see colors? CM-Red giants. Betelgeuse. CM-1B volume of sun, so outer surface is cool. JW-sent video of ocean levels rising over earth if all ice on earth melts. B-flare coming our way? JW-large solar eruption, gave nice auroras. CM-1859 Carrington event, caused fires at telegraph terminals. BM-Sun CME's at various angles, so only some hit earth. music: "as a spaceship flies, strong embrace of a black hole, the engine died..."
33:44.791 music: "the thriving crews not to fall into a black hole" CM-Kazoo music B-nerds never get visited by beauties. Club very active. CM-top 3 in nation TT-most clubs do not have radio shows. B-most action in Astro? JW-no, biology. Tech, nano structures revolutionizing the world. JW-possible to image an individual atom and pick it up and put it somewhere else. Trouble for nightly news to translate to public for high ratings. B-1T stars in Milky Way? CM-maybe 1T solar masses. Smallest stars 80x Jupiter. 2001 movie mass added to Jupiter to turn it into a star. B-Kubric, studio in London for apes. CM-ISS passing 757pm SW to NE by 803, very bright. B-medical changes of astronauts? Kelly brothers, CM-small amount of calcium change. B-SpaceX docking to ISS? JW-just for cargo, Russians do people. TT-russian engine for Atlas 5. BM-artificial gravity could be made for ISS. CM-more problems than worth. JW-must be standing on floor to feel gravity of rotating space station. Running and jumping. B-Passengers movie? JW-wakes up passenger. TT-Andy Howell of LCO, has Science vs. Cinema on YouTube, analyzes movies and ruins them for me. B-Aliens movies. TT-like A vs Predators. music: "I became a star of gas"
45:54.162 music: "Once I had my hydrogen gas slowly fuse to helium" BM-Bonnie sits w BM in front at meetings, but has a detached retina, so hard to look thru telescopes. B-what is status of Juno? CM-53 day orbit around Jupiter. radiation from trapped particles in magnetic field. JW-Earth has Van Allen belts of radiation. TT Q's about radiation. B-sunspots JW-cooler areas. B-eight minutes for light from Sun to reach us. Thousands of years from core to surface? TT-sounds strange, but core gamma ray photon actually changes into other photons? JW-absorbed re-emitted. BM-photon/wave duality. B-starts/stops on a dime! JW-laser on moon [to push StarChip] is phased locked. BM-light amp by stim emiss of rad. JW-Phil Lubin phase locking to prevent divergence. B-beach tanning is a lot of beating down. TT stops on a dime on your DNA. Music: "Galileo 1609 saw mountains and craters on the moon, jupiter with 4 tiny moons" "got my telescope w me" "shoulders of giants"
54:50.459 music: "beyond..." TT-next speaker for October? JW-not sure B-December, just ask a couple of Q's. How much do we learn from the speakers? CM-always something and some folks are new to club. B-AdrianL busy w school, like a job. JW-older folks are retired, so have time to attend. CM-events coming up...40 UCLA students.B-see you all at the meeting.
57:39.105 end
00:00.000 Baron-saw Mark Giles? John Denver music; ChuckMcP in studio, over anti-biotics, B still doing his. Cassini dived into Saturn, Juno circling big planet, C-deliberate orbit to avoid radiation. B-Webb telescope segmented. C-AU 1983 start, joined 1987
02:44.021 Earth Sky 2012 Volcanos caused cooling 1380AD, made little ice age 1600s, not change in Sun. John Denver playing in background w/ Beatles.
04:29.239 TT in Chevy Spark, Donny re: John Palminteri ships in channel
06:53.630 music B-we will catch up on probes in space
07:14.656 music B-AM1290, only club I have joined, Key club in HS not in, but editor of paper. Did mobile DJ for reunion. compare JW Pres style to TT C-calm and collected B-but what is JW's. B-photos for calendar, JW eclipse, JW-Flickr ones best. B-Bacara changing owners, when SBAU outreaches? C-June-Aug Thursdays. TT-hopefully in 2018 also. C-Sedgwick for UCLA Thurs. B-Steve: you were member of club, breakfast club
11:36.305 music: "it was calm and cloudless night" Galileo 1609. B- TT singing along, JW- SBRS, CMcP-TT outreach in Wyoming, BruceM 127 outreaches last year, B-how to get into Bacara? JW-security gate question "here for astronomy". B-Summer start at 8pm? CM-depends on moon, planets. B-gray haired group JW-more than one HS'er. BM- theater organ usually 2nd Sat, SBTOS.org. retired EE. [JW-taking pic] B-Cassini wake, CM-13 years around Saturn. B-slingshot around planet, seems it would whip you 180deg? JW-depends on distance from planet BM-gravity diminishes Dist squared. CM-suck momentum out of planet. TT-launch 1997, but how many years before in planning? JW-many. B-Galileo ever found out what ears of Saturn were? CM-not likely. TT-Kittens going around Saturn, 60 of them in outer rings, moonlets. JW-too close to Saturn, under Roche limit [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit] JW-two objects, slightly different orbits, gravitational attract of larger object vs. coming apart CM-depends on what the object is made of; B-is Roche on that list of famous astronomers for the calendar? CM- No. B-Mars moons, tidally locked go farther away, vs non-tidally locked? Mercury JW-2:3 resonance? pull into Sun? CM-elliptical orbit precesses. B-T always on cell (tablet). music Gato B jazz.
21:43.533 music: "it has a been a long road, a long time, time is finaly here" Star Trek Enterprise. TT-new Star Trek show Discovery, on CBS all-access for $$. TT-summary of first show, lady related to Spock Father 10 yrs before original show, Klingons. B-Cassini break up? JW-breaks up, heat vs. oxidation. plasma [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)] B-BM how many telescopes? BM-2 C8, 1-5" Maksutov. B-talk about star parties. Cannot see colors? CM-Red giants. Betelgeuse. CM-1B volume of sun, so outer surface is cool. JW-sent video of ocean levels rising over earth if all ice on earth melts. B-flare coming our way? JW-large solar eruption, gave nice auroras. CM-1859 Carrington event, caused fires at telegraph terminals. BM-Sun CME's at various angles, so only some hit earth. music: "as a spaceship flies, strong embrace of a black hole, the engine died..."
33:44.791 music: "the thriving crews not to fall into a black hole" CM-Kazoo music B-nerds never get visited by beauties. Club very active. CM-top 3 in nation TT-most clubs do not have radio shows. B-most action in Astro? JW-no, biology. Tech, nano structures revolutionizing the world. JW-possible to image an individual atom and pick it up and put it somewhere else. Trouble for nightly news to translate to public for high ratings. B-1T stars in Milky Way? CM-maybe 1T solar masses. Smallest stars 80x Jupiter. 2001 movie mass added to Jupiter to turn it into a star. B-Kubric, studio in London for apes. CM-ISS passing 757pm SW to NE by 803, very bright. B-medical changes of astronauts? Kelly brothers, CM-small amount of calcium change. B-SpaceX docking to ISS? JW-just for cargo, Russians do people. TT-russian engine for Atlas 5. BM-artificial gravity could be made for ISS. CM-more problems than worth. JW-must be standing on floor to feel gravity of rotating space station. Running and jumping. B-Passengers movie? JW-wakes up passenger. TT-Andy Howell of LCO, has Science vs. Cinema on YouTube, analyzes movies and ruins them for me. B-Aliens movies. TT-like A vs Predators. music: "I became a star of gas"
45:54.162 music: "Once I had my hydrogen gas slowly fuse to helium" BM-Bonnie sits w BM in front at meetings, but has a detached retina, so hard to look thru telescopes. B-what is status of Juno? CM-53 day orbit around Jupiter. radiation from trapped particles in magnetic field. JW-Earth has Van Allen belts of radiation. TT Q's about radiation. B-sunspots JW-cooler areas. B-eight minutes for light from Sun to reach us. Thousands of years from core to surface? TT-sounds strange, but core gamma ray photon actually changes into other photons? JW-absorbed re-emitted. BM-photon/wave duality. B-starts/stops on a dime! JW-laser on moon [to push StarChip] is phased locked. BM-light amp by stim emiss of rad. JW-Phil Lubin phase locking to prevent divergence. B-beach tanning is a lot of beating down. TT stops on a dime on your DNA. Music: "Galileo 1609 saw mountains and craters on the moon, jupiter with 4 tiny moons" "got my telescope w me" "shoulders of giants"
54:50.459 music: "beyond..." TT-next speaker for October? JW-not sure B-December, just ask a couple of Q's. How much do we learn from the speakers? CM-always something and some folks are new to club. B-AdrianL busy w school, like a job. JW-older folks are retired, so have time to attend. CM-events coming up...40 UCLA students.B-see you all at the meeting.
57:39.105 end
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Outreach & Events / 170911 KZSB radio SBAU show Baron JW CMcP TT BM 9-10am 2nd Monday
« on: September 11, 2017, 11:36:04 PM »
170911 KZSB radio SBAU show Baron JW CMcP TT BM 9-10am 2nd Monday
00:00.000 B-564-1290, AU guys coming in ~830am
00:27.500 music: Doors B-flashback to last night CM-7a huge gully washer TT-lightening, but use earplugs B-hurricanes on Jupiter, want to talk about water surges. Bahamas areas water was pushed away. TT-also along Florida coast. B-surge is new term. Wind is counter-clockwise. West Florida, first part of storm pushes water out to sea. TT-wind ahead of eye was pushing water out to west. CM-low psi in eye has effect. B-Hello Jerry, minutes ready? JW-low psi causes moisture to condense out of the air. B-what happens on Neptune? The great red spot? JW-never found a satisfying answer. B-losing Juno, like Cassini? JW-yes. CM-last orbit. no camera images, no time to send image data. TT-folks living in clouds of Saturn will be harmed. B-break up? CM-burn up, but dipping into rings on last passes. B-Saturn lighter than water, we need a big bathtub to put it in. TT-but what happens when you pull it out? CM-it leaves a big ring! B-we wont talk about Uranus.
07:35.221 Earth-Sky Milky Way will collide in 4B yrs w Andronmeda, mutual pull of gravity and dark matter between them. Long ago, A encountered another galaxy, M33, Triangulum Gal, they can see trail of gas between them.
09:05.639 Donny, AU finest minds here, not including Tom TT-alrighty then D-dont let him pick on you
09:40.013 CM-rainbow, orange B-cards to scratch off for free gas. CM-TomW has classes, special relativity.
11:59.512
12:12.131 B-call up Holst Saturn? TT-Mars, Jupiter exciting. B-great speakers at AU meetings, send your kids, free food. TT-Saturday Astrovaganza was good. B-construction at Museum. CM-ADA walkways. B-so much going on at Museum. Planetarium, Observatory, star parties.
15:07.484 music: B-intros TT, JW, CMcP astrophysics front and center of all the sciences CM-+biology B-chemistry JW-Astrovaganza speaker TT-Phil Lubin, Rothman, B-postage stamp sized missions JW-pushed by phased locked lasers B-like Ruby lasers TT-coherent light? JW-yes, stimulated electrons waiting to fall down, all fall at once CM-like lemmnigs JW- B- TT-how does photons stick together in narrow beam? JW-in phase B-mirrors on moon? JW-corner cubes B-pointers red aimed at helicopters? CM-green JW-now Blu-ray light, data more compacted on disk, UCSB prof got Nobel prize. JW-postage stamp size, camera, transmitter, bugs in back seat. B-how can signal get back to earth? Armada? CM-several every day JW-thousands at a time. TT-biologist Dr. Hoffman was to see how life in space works JW-worms, aliens will want deworming medicine. freeze dried bugs. TT-should do this w humans. JW-Cassini burn up in Saturn to prevent contaminating other moons. B-no one on phone, Dupree call in! TT-Mom, call in!
25:49.980 music: "once I had enuf mass, i became a star of gas" B-AU name since? CM-1983 or 5 TT-joined 2009 JW-early 2000's. B-how to get more kids to join CM-kids get cars, friends, school as distractions. JW-retirement. Some speakers are professors and students come in to talks. We keep speakers at public level, no math. B-AdrianL is VP, 17 at DP. B-Cassini speaker, how long to get to Saturn? CM-7years B-so 20 to Proxima is doable CM-hard to keep staff on project that long. B-Huygens probe dropped on Titan. CM-Huygens discovered rings and Titan going around Saturn. Titan bigger than Mercury. JW-atmosphere 1.5x earths. smog atmosphere, methane ethane. TT-rockets to drop probe? JW-heat shield. B-video shows shadow of parachute as it lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens_(spacecraft) . B-Voyager 1 TT-interstellar space 140AU, JW-hyperbolic orbit never will return. B-looking at dwarf planets? planet 9 TT-20xEmass, TT-now a planet 10 also.
music: timeless night 1609 Galileo used his telescope for very first time...
38:36.137 music: got my telescope w me, just wait to you see on the shoulders of giants, we'll see beyond. B-AU tidy little club, run by JW, was TT, real leader is CM, 200 nights a year B-Bacara now will be owned by Ritz Carlton. 2nd Sat star parties BM on phone, BM-just checked wife flight to Atlanta, looks on time. [30s missing] B-Qs do we know the direction of hurricanes in north? JW-counterclockwise. B-storm surge, Bahama water retreated. BM-beach is shallow at Bahamas. CM- on Navy cruiser betw islands and they are very low. B-various size hurricanes, more coming BM-map for 2100 Florida shows tip of Florida disappearing, coastal cities disappear. BM-Florida described by one #95, 95deg, 95humidity B-and highway 95.
45:52.909 music: 2001 Strauss, B-intros need it darker in Farrand, but may not see speaker TT-need light at lecturn. B-Saturn Cassini speaker TT-Bonnie Buriatti JPL BM-cannot see from Earth the moons of Saturn B-send bugs to Titan? TT-yes, terraform moons JW-Mars, just warm it up, and we know how to do that! B-Mars moons one will go away and one will crash. B-Mercury locked? BM-2/3 resonance (59 day rotation vs. 88 day orbit) B-all bodies planets effect the thing they are orbiting BM common center of mass in Sun for Jupiter. JW-linear sum of circles for each planets, used to find exoplanets, and doppler effect on light. B-? JW-radio hands...think of kids on teeter-totter for balance point as center of gravity. B-Alpha Centauri is 3 star system CM-two stars orbit each other, 1 small around both of them. B-fal into ea other? JW-some systems will do that. B-no dark sky at Proxima? JW-all 3 stars could be on one side. B-Starshot Breakthru mission, how to steer craft? TT-something does tilt craft. JW-will shoot laser from back side of moon to avoid hitting earth. B-events coming up? CM-Telescope Workshop, Westmont JW-got a Questar from Sat star party.
56:31.663 music: black hole B-someone very sick came up with this. B-Sat speaker, I wish I made that, how often? TT-only Astrovaganza B-Matrix bar and Sci pub. JW-Baron on for December to ask Qs, B-present case. B-Friday end of Cassini TT-can we see it from Westmont? B-see the rings CM-Cassini has great pictures 30ft thick rings. BM-Encelladus in E ring. TT-do not cry for Cassini..BM-do not forget theater organ Society open console...
1:01:11.270 end
00:00.000 B-564-1290, AU guys coming in ~830am
00:27.500 music: Doors B-flashback to last night CM-7a huge gully washer TT-lightening, but use earplugs B-hurricanes on Jupiter, want to talk about water surges. Bahamas areas water was pushed away. TT-also along Florida coast. B-surge is new term. Wind is counter-clockwise. West Florida, first part of storm pushes water out to sea. TT-wind ahead of eye was pushing water out to west. CM-low psi in eye has effect. B-Hello Jerry, minutes ready? JW-low psi causes moisture to condense out of the air. B-what happens on Neptune? The great red spot? JW-never found a satisfying answer. B-losing Juno, like Cassini? JW-yes. CM-last orbit. no camera images, no time to send image data. TT-folks living in clouds of Saturn will be harmed. B-break up? CM-burn up, but dipping into rings on last passes. B-Saturn lighter than water, we need a big bathtub to put it in. TT-but what happens when you pull it out? CM-it leaves a big ring! B-we wont talk about Uranus.
07:35.221 Earth-Sky Milky Way will collide in 4B yrs w Andronmeda, mutual pull of gravity and dark matter between them. Long ago, A encountered another galaxy, M33, Triangulum Gal, they can see trail of gas between them.
09:05.639 Donny, AU finest minds here, not including Tom TT-alrighty then D-dont let him pick on you
09:40.013 CM-rainbow, orange B-cards to scratch off for free gas. CM-TomW has classes, special relativity.
11:59.512
12:12.131 B-call up Holst Saturn? TT-Mars, Jupiter exciting. B-great speakers at AU meetings, send your kids, free food. TT-Saturday Astrovaganza was good. B-construction at Museum. CM-ADA walkways. B-so much going on at Museum. Planetarium, Observatory, star parties.
15:07.484 music: B-intros TT, JW, CMcP astrophysics front and center of all the sciences CM-+biology B-chemistry JW-Astrovaganza speaker TT-Phil Lubin, Rothman, B-postage stamp sized missions JW-pushed by phased locked lasers B-like Ruby lasers TT-coherent light? JW-yes, stimulated electrons waiting to fall down, all fall at once CM-like lemmnigs JW- B- TT-how does photons stick together in narrow beam? JW-in phase B-mirrors on moon? JW-corner cubes B-pointers red aimed at helicopters? CM-green JW-now Blu-ray light, data more compacted on disk, UCSB prof got Nobel prize. JW-postage stamp size, camera, transmitter, bugs in back seat. B-how can signal get back to earth? Armada? CM-several every day JW-thousands at a time. TT-biologist Dr. Hoffman was to see how life in space works JW-worms, aliens will want deworming medicine. freeze dried bugs. TT-should do this w humans. JW-Cassini burn up in Saturn to prevent contaminating other moons. B-no one on phone, Dupree call in! TT-Mom, call in!
25:49.980 music: "once I had enuf mass, i became a star of gas" B-AU name since? CM-1983 or 5 TT-joined 2009 JW-early 2000's. B-how to get more kids to join CM-kids get cars, friends, school as distractions. JW-retirement. Some speakers are professors and students come in to talks. We keep speakers at public level, no math. B-AdrianL is VP, 17 at DP. B-Cassini speaker, how long to get to Saturn? CM-7years B-so 20 to Proxima is doable CM-hard to keep staff on project that long. B-Huygens probe dropped on Titan. CM-Huygens discovered rings and Titan going around Saturn. Titan bigger than Mercury. JW-atmosphere 1.5x earths. smog atmosphere, methane ethane. TT-rockets to drop probe? JW-heat shield. B-video shows shadow of parachute as it lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens_(spacecraft) . B-Voyager 1 TT-interstellar space 140AU, JW-hyperbolic orbit never will return. B-looking at dwarf planets? planet 9 TT-20xEmass, TT-now a planet 10 also.
music: timeless night 1609 Galileo used his telescope for very first time...
38:36.137 music: got my telescope w me, just wait to you see on the shoulders of giants, we'll see beyond. B-AU tidy little club, run by JW, was TT, real leader is CM, 200 nights a year B-Bacara now will be owned by Ritz Carlton. 2nd Sat star parties BM on phone, BM-just checked wife flight to Atlanta, looks on time. [30s missing] B-Qs do we know the direction of hurricanes in north? JW-counterclockwise. B-storm surge, Bahama water retreated. BM-beach is shallow at Bahamas. CM- on Navy cruiser betw islands and they are very low. B-various size hurricanes, more coming BM-map for 2100 Florida shows tip of Florida disappearing, coastal cities disappear. BM-Florida described by one #95, 95deg, 95humidity B-and highway 95.
45:52.909 music: 2001 Strauss, B-intros need it darker in Farrand, but may not see speaker TT-need light at lecturn. B-Saturn Cassini speaker TT-Bonnie Buriatti JPL BM-cannot see from Earth the moons of Saturn B-send bugs to Titan? TT-yes, terraform moons JW-Mars, just warm it up, and we know how to do that! B-Mars moons one will go away and one will crash. B-Mercury locked? BM-2/3 resonance (59 day rotation vs. 88 day orbit) B-all bodies planets effect the thing they are orbiting BM common center of mass in Sun for Jupiter. JW-linear sum of circles for each planets, used to find exoplanets, and doppler effect on light. B-? JW-radio hands...think of kids on teeter-totter for balance point as center of gravity. B-Alpha Centauri is 3 star system CM-two stars orbit each other, 1 small around both of them. B-fal into ea other? JW-some systems will do that. B-no dark sky at Proxima? JW-all 3 stars could be on one side. B-Starshot Breakthru mission, how to steer craft? TT-something does tilt craft. JW-will shoot laser from back side of moon to avoid hitting earth. B-events coming up? CM-Telescope Workshop, Westmont JW-got a Questar from Sat star party.
56:31.663 music: black hole B-someone very sick came up with this. B-Sat speaker, I wish I made that, how often? TT-only Astrovaganza B-Matrix bar and Sci pub. JW-Baron on for December to ask Qs, B-present case. B-Friday end of Cassini TT-can we see it from Westmont? B-see the rings CM-Cassini has great pictures 30ft thick rings. BM-Encelladus in E ring. TT-do not cry for Cassini..BM-do not forget theater organ Society open console...
1:01:11.270 end
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Outreach & Events / 170814 KZSB SBAU radio program AdrianL Summer Science B JW TW CM 2nd Monday
« on: August 28, 2017, 11:16:17 PM »
Quick notes! Download and listen to attached mp3 file, 50 minutes.
170814 KZSB SBAU radio program AdrianL Summer Science B JW TW CM 2nd Monday
00:00.000 earth sky solar flares
01:29.739 it is 3pm. Baron-news: solar eclipse museum natural history
02:36.849 B-news: forest eclipse crowds & fires
03:21.774 song "summer 1609 Galileo" TW newsletter 14 yrs; CM Comtech computers; TW-adjunct Westmont; AdrianL VP will tell about summer sci progr in astrophysics; TW-NY Times 1919 eclipse supported relativity, read about supporting others to see it. Helen McDonald, "March 26 Turkey, hole in sky, very black at totality. Hard to grasp. ?Thot others would detract from event, but in a crowd there is a solidarity felt..." TW-going to South Carolina, Greenville. JW-near Salem Oregon, Pine Ridge resort outside of Mamouth; CM-Wyoming; AL-in town, school starting, may hand out some glasses. Javier will talk at Dargan's Sci Pub tonite.
15:256.084 song "its been a long while" star trek. Police Chief works out to Pink (singer). SBAU.org . CM-1955 SB star cluster, AdrianC biking across US. B-getting pictures of members. JW- last speaker Karl Blasius, Mars. B-Orion capsule, next gen JW-for manned missions, 2018 may be first mission. B-will talk on eclipse later. AdrianL 6-18 to 7-26 summer science program in astrophysics New Mexico, 36 kids. Collaboration w/ Alumni Foundation, two campuses CU Boulder, and NM Inst Tech, Sicorro. 1hr s of Albuquere. Lecture 9-12, 1-4, work on P-sets, problem sets. TW-very prestigious to be in. AL-Costs $5-6K, but had financial aid. AL-P-sets one a day, main problem of summer was to determine orbit of an Asteroid. Twice a week, 2hrs a night, observe w/ telescope, take pics, RA, Dec. Teams of three. 18th mag or brighter asteroids can be seen. B-most between Mars & Jupiter. TW-18th mag is 1000x dimmer than seen w naked eye. B-all earth telescopes have tracking mech? JW- CM-w/ telescopes can track in a few minutes. Ceres 600 miles across. B-Mars moons potatoes in space. AL-name of asteroids 2005 TX68, 1999 LA, 1951 Lick; 12 teams. Everyone successful in determining orbits. AL-plan to major in physics, then astrophysics. CM-he will come back and talk to our club.
28:34.084 song "once I had enough of a mass, i became a star of gas" eclipse August 21 Monday, need special glasses. B-shadow 70 miles across CM-partial shadow is much wider. AL-problem angular momentum if Moon moving away, calc Earth slowing down. B-what to learn from eclipse? JW-what can we know that we do not know CM-different layers of Sun can be seen. JW-coronagraph can work like a natural eclipse. JW-AL did you operate telescope? AL-we did, but had help. 14" scope in New Mexico. TW-hosted program at Westmont in past. B-jazz Gato Barberi "Europa" beasts under the ice.
34:36.681 song "its been a long while" B-it's the AU hour, SBAU.org, astro unit, Richard Dupre: determining DEC/RA? AL-used that to calculate distance and movement, long of ascending nodes, RD-expression of orbit? AL-determined orbit, RD-prediction? AL-not perfect. RD-what math used? AL-RA/DEC used astrometry, least squarese plate reduction using nearby ref stars, then method of Gauss CM-vector math. B-calculus? AL-partial deriv, figured in class, then plug in numbers. CM-gravity of Jupiter can throw orbits off. AL-these were NEO asteroids. JW-asteroids could interact and change orbits. shatter or stick to each other also. Shoemaker/Levy Jupiter tidal forces. TW-Keplerian dynamics can show gravity effects. JW-spot exoplanets by motion of stars; also transits. B-all solar systems flat? JW-comets come from various angles. B-any friends made? AL-facebook group. B-girls in STEM only 4%? CM-prob going up. TW-circuit class 3 or 4 of 10 female. B-small class. CM-my intro class had 300 students. TW-taught there, very diff from Evergreen college.
43:28.876 song "calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo" B-true? CM-he pushed his luck. Venus, Jupiter observations. CM-Cassini will go into Saturn soon. Huygens probe dropped on Titan. Juno mission around Jupiter B-pics of great red spot? JW-yes. radiation near planet. B-New Horizons CM-going to a binary or elongated body dwarf planet, found by occultations. B-great pics of Pluto, heart shape. CM-may call it a planet again, anything in hydrostatic equilibrium JW-spherical. B-did we land on asteroid? yes. JW-dinosaurs did not have space program. TW-James Webb coming up. B-WISE telescope? CM-wide field infrared survey. B-not visual anymore? JW-big ones still visual. Thanks Adrian
49:08.845 end. some news w/ Baron..renew energy vs gas plant in Oxnard. 50:26.331
170814 KZSB SBAU radio program AdrianL Summer Science B JW TW CM 2nd Monday
00:00.000 earth sky solar flares
01:29.739 it is 3pm. Baron-news: solar eclipse museum natural history
02:36.849 B-news: forest eclipse crowds & fires
03:21.774 song "summer 1609 Galileo" TW newsletter 14 yrs; CM Comtech computers; TW-adjunct Westmont; AdrianL VP will tell about summer sci progr in astrophysics; TW-NY Times 1919 eclipse supported relativity, read about supporting others to see it. Helen McDonald, "March 26 Turkey, hole in sky, very black at totality. Hard to grasp. ?Thot others would detract from event, but in a crowd there is a solidarity felt..." TW-going to South Carolina, Greenville. JW-near Salem Oregon, Pine Ridge resort outside of Mamouth; CM-Wyoming; AL-in town, school starting, may hand out some glasses. Javier will talk at Dargan's Sci Pub tonite.
15:256.084 song "its been a long while" star trek. Police Chief works out to Pink (singer). SBAU.org . CM-1955 SB star cluster, AdrianC biking across US. B-getting pictures of members. JW- last speaker Karl Blasius, Mars. B-Orion capsule, next gen JW-for manned missions, 2018 may be first mission. B-will talk on eclipse later. AdrianL 6-18 to 7-26 summer science program in astrophysics New Mexico, 36 kids. Collaboration w/ Alumni Foundation, two campuses CU Boulder, and NM Inst Tech, Sicorro. 1hr s of Albuquere. Lecture 9-12, 1-4, work on P-sets, problem sets. TW-very prestigious to be in. AL-Costs $5-6K, but had financial aid. AL-P-sets one a day, main problem of summer was to determine orbit of an Asteroid. Twice a week, 2hrs a night, observe w/ telescope, take pics, RA, Dec. Teams of three. 18th mag or brighter asteroids can be seen. B-most between Mars & Jupiter. TW-18th mag is 1000x dimmer than seen w naked eye. B-all earth telescopes have tracking mech? JW- CM-w/ telescopes can track in a few minutes. Ceres 600 miles across. B-Mars moons potatoes in space. AL-name of asteroids 2005 TX68, 1999 LA, 1951 Lick; 12 teams. Everyone successful in determining orbits. AL-plan to major in physics, then astrophysics. CM-he will come back and talk to our club.
28:34.084 song "once I had enough of a mass, i became a star of gas" eclipse August 21 Monday, need special glasses. B-shadow 70 miles across CM-partial shadow is much wider. AL-problem angular momentum if Moon moving away, calc Earth slowing down. B-what to learn from eclipse? JW-what can we know that we do not know CM-different layers of Sun can be seen. JW-coronagraph can work like a natural eclipse. JW-AL did you operate telescope? AL-we did, but had help. 14" scope in New Mexico. TW-hosted program at Westmont in past. B-jazz Gato Barberi "Europa" beasts under the ice.
34:36.681 song "its been a long while" B-it's the AU hour, SBAU.org, astro unit, Richard Dupre: determining DEC/RA? AL-used that to calculate distance and movement, long of ascending nodes, RD-expression of orbit? AL-determined orbit, RD-prediction? AL-not perfect. RD-what math used? AL-RA/DEC used astrometry, least squarese plate reduction using nearby ref stars, then method of Gauss CM-vector math. B-calculus? AL-partial deriv, figured in class, then plug in numbers. CM-gravity of Jupiter can throw orbits off. AL-these were NEO asteroids. JW-asteroids could interact and change orbits. shatter or stick to each other also. Shoemaker/Levy Jupiter tidal forces. TW-Keplerian dynamics can show gravity effects. JW-spot exoplanets by motion of stars; also transits. B-all solar systems flat? JW-comets come from various angles. B-any friends made? AL-facebook group. B-girls in STEM only 4%? CM-prob going up. TW-circuit class 3 or 4 of 10 female. B-small class. CM-my intro class had 300 students. TW-taught there, very diff from Evergreen college.
43:28.876 song "calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo" B-true? CM-he pushed his luck. Venus, Jupiter observations. CM-Cassini will go into Saturn soon. Huygens probe dropped on Titan. Juno mission around Jupiter B-pics of great red spot? JW-yes. radiation near planet. B-New Horizons CM-going to a binary or elongated body dwarf planet, found by occultations. B-great pics of Pluto, heart shape. CM-may call it a planet again, anything in hydrostatic equilibrium JW-spherical. B-did we land on asteroid? yes. JW-dinosaurs did not have space program. TW-James Webb coming up. B-WISE telescope? CM-wide field infrared survey. B-not visual anymore? JW-big ones still visual. Thanks Adrian
49:08.845 end. some news w/ Baron..renew energy vs gas plant in Oxnard. 50:26.331
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Outreach & Events / 170607 KZSB interview Thacher school astronomy Vyhnal and Swift w/ AdrianL Q's
« on: June 07, 2017, 09:56:22 PM »
170607 interview Thacher school astronomy. Drs Vyhnal and Swift
(download and play attached audio file)
00:00.000 early talk
01:26.515 pre 9am intros
03:09.481 1st section star trek music
13:13.261 2nd section music: 1609 Galileo
24:41.729 3rd section ... 25:14.426 power loss! for about 15minutes.
4th section sounds a little scratchy for a minute or so.
Richard Dupree call re power loss...yes Thacher Obs dome can close if power is lost.
42:14.943 end
(download and play attached audio file)
00:00.000 early talk
01:26.515 pre 9am intros
03:09.481 1st section star trek music
13:13.261 2nd section music: 1609 Galileo
24:41.729 3rd section ... 25:14.426 power loss! for about 15minutes.
4th section sounds a little scratchy for a minute or so.
Richard Dupree call re power loss...yes Thacher Obs dome can close if power is lost.
42:14.943 end
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Outreach & Events / 170522 KZSB 1290AM SBAU radio hour 4th Monday
« on: May 27, 2017, 11:32:37 PM »
170522 KZSB 1290AM SBAU radio hour 4th Monday notes w/ Baron Ron Herron, JerryW, ChuckMcP, TomT, BruceM
see attached file to download and playback
tt--if a spaceship lands on Uranus, will that make you itchy?
00:00.000 Teresa Brewer "Let me go" song, Baron preview SBAU
02:07.057 TT where should I put my millions?
02:22.178
02:43.701 f-bomb?
02:56.741 B-in my studio, names, star party last saturday at Museum, JW-famous pic of Einstein taken at Museum; CM-after 1915 Einstein world famous; B-special relativity? JW-sure;
04:58.967 music: Galileo 1609; B-how do we know that? CM-he wrote about it, refractor. JW-eyeglasses led to telescopes. CM-seafarers did not have scopes until after Galileo. B-Ben Franklin kite ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_experiment ); 400Hz freq for airplanes;
08:12.675 music: Star Trek; B, BruceM-June 3 next open console for Arlington Theater organ; B-Nemo's organ? TT, JW, CM intro suggested by Richard Dugan, AntiKythera Mechanism, an Orrey, B-needs oiling? BM-xray'd and replicated; B-Chariots of the Gods guy will claim something else; BM-60Hz used for carbon arcs; 400Hz used in aircraft for weight reasons. JW-real bright lights were carbon arcs, and before light bulbs, Lime burned in theaters "limelight", and miners used underground. BM-acetylene to burn the lime; Edison bulbs; B-Edison direct current, Tesla A/c championed by Westinghouse. BM-D/c needed power every mile. JW-A/c electrons slosh back and forth. B-lightning? Exoplanets show lightning.
17:25.050 music: ST space, the final frontier; Richard Dupree call during break. JW-earth one of most active lightning planet suitable for life, but Jupiter has much more; B-Sprites? JW-above the clouds, and go up. ISS has taken pictures. B-uneven electrons amounts. BM-Calcium Carbide for lamps. TT-3 types of sprites, jellyfish, column, carrots. B-JW do not believe in Dark Matter? JW-need to test and get evidence to support postulate. DM is a simple explanation. TT-may be MOND. CM-no evidence. JW-I think we will be surprised with final answer. B-Black holes, many solar masses...missing stars? JW-are not enough to be dark matter BM-I heard opposite, more BH than stars. TT-maybe early in universe more massive stars that collapse to BHs. JW-graviton not found yet. but cleverly made up.
BM-neutrino can go thru a light year of lead w/ 30% chance of hitting. JW-produced in core of Sun, detected on earth. 3 types of neutrinos. Could account for missing numbers. B-come from all stars. CM-2 sec early warnings of supernova due to neutrino detection. B-neutrino travel at speed of light, solar wind comes later.
30:00.401 music: Gato Barbieri. B-SBAU potluck June 2 for members. Chips/Dip; Mac/Cheese. CM-outreach 6-3 REfugio, 6 tele tues....Bacara, Museum, Westmont, Lopez Lake, Carp St Beach; Asteroid Day June 31 1908 Tunguska event in Siberia. TT-RTMC. B-eclipse story, Aug 21 JW-Hi to daughter Laura in Port Hueneme, texted back. BM-gravity has waves, why not a particle involved? B-spacetime continum? JW-rubber sheet not literal. TT-spacetime, 4D? JW-time is c x T.... B-special general relativity next
38:33.971 music: McP song collection; B-banjo space music; back w/ BM on phone, card carrying members, JW-"cannot lose it" not in my spacetime. July meeting Yair Arcavi, Aug-Karl Blasius Mars. B-monolith. Genius TV show on Einstein..how can something go thru nothing. JW-just wrote on that in SBAU newsletter, zero in math. Can vacuum exist? no motion in vacuum? 1644 Torrecelli made vacuum with mercury in tube. Barometer. B-spec/gen rrelativity? JW-special is at constant velocity, zero acceleration, e=mc2, time dilation, twin paradox. General is with acceleration taking place, elevator falling. grav mass = inertia mass. JW-space ships that rotate to make gravity. B-earth? JW-want to travel in straight line, feel gravity from mass. BM-gravity sucks JW-there is no gravity the earth sucks. B-so? JW-expl the universe CM-then quantum mechanics. LHC and Fermi Lab chicago. Texas was too expensive for a LHC during Vietnam war. B-anti-matter in LHC? JW-can hold in magnetic bottle. Star Trek Enterprise amount? JW-copius amount maybe in another method. Classical vacuum take everything out. B-anti-protons, positrons = explosion? BM-energy.
49:14.323 music: star trek tv; B-why not more members for AU? many listeners TT-millions on internet. B-trojan asteroids? CM-occulations TT-how many looking at same occultations? CM-up to 80, but usually just a few. B-billions of rocks? how to nail one? CM-100Ks know. TT-only in belt? CM-also near earth objects. CM-trojans in same orbit as planet BM-lagrange point. B-Ceres, dwarf planet. B-wrap up hour outreaches, Museum, Westmont. CM-Cachuma in July. JW-Neil Degrasse Tyson, Physics not a belief system.
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see attached file to download and playback
tt--if a spaceship lands on Uranus, will that make you itchy?
00:00.000 Teresa Brewer "Let me go" song, Baron preview SBAU
02:07.057 TT where should I put my millions?
02:22.178
02:43.701 f-bomb?
02:56.741 B-in my studio, names, star party last saturday at Museum, JW-famous pic of Einstein taken at Museum; CM-after 1915 Einstein world famous; B-special relativity? JW-sure;
04:58.967 music: Galileo 1609; B-how do we know that? CM-he wrote about it, refractor. JW-eyeglasses led to telescopes. CM-seafarers did not have scopes until after Galileo. B-Ben Franklin kite ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_experiment ); 400Hz freq for airplanes;
08:12.675 music: Star Trek; B, BruceM-June 3 next open console for Arlington Theater organ; B-Nemo's organ? TT, JW, CM intro suggested by Richard Dugan, AntiKythera Mechanism, an Orrey, B-needs oiling? BM-xray'd and replicated; B-Chariots of the Gods guy will claim something else; BM-60Hz used for carbon arcs; 400Hz used in aircraft for weight reasons. JW-real bright lights were carbon arcs, and before light bulbs, Lime burned in theaters "limelight", and miners used underground. BM-acetylene to burn the lime; Edison bulbs; B-Edison direct current, Tesla A/c championed by Westinghouse. BM-D/c needed power every mile. JW-A/c electrons slosh back and forth. B-lightning? Exoplanets show lightning.
17:25.050 music: ST space, the final frontier; Richard Dupree call during break. JW-earth one of most active lightning planet suitable for life, but Jupiter has much more; B-Sprites? JW-above the clouds, and go up. ISS has taken pictures. B-uneven electrons amounts. BM-Calcium Carbide for lamps. TT-3 types of sprites, jellyfish, column, carrots. B-JW do not believe in Dark Matter? JW-need to test and get evidence to support postulate. DM is a simple explanation. TT-may be MOND. CM-no evidence. JW-I think we will be surprised with final answer. B-Black holes, many solar masses...missing stars? JW-are not enough to be dark matter BM-I heard opposite, more BH than stars. TT-maybe early in universe more massive stars that collapse to BHs. JW-graviton not found yet. but cleverly made up.
BM-neutrino can go thru a light year of lead w/ 30% chance of hitting. JW-produced in core of Sun, detected on earth. 3 types of neutrinos. Could account for missing numbers. B-come from all stars. CM-2 sec early warnings of supernova due to neutrino detection. B-neutrino travel at speed of light, solar wind comes later.
30:00.401 music: Gato Barbieri. B-SBAU potluck June 2 for members. Chips/Dip; Mac/Cheese. CM-outreach 6-3 REfugio, 6 tele tues....Bacara, Museum, Westmont, Lopez Lake, Carp St Beach; Asteroid Day June 31 1908 Tunguska event in Siberia. TT-RTMC. B-eclipse story, Aug 21 JW-Hi to daughter Laura in Port Hueneme, texted back. BM-gravity has waves, why not a particle involved? B-spacetime continum? JW-rubber sheet not literal. TT-spacetime, 4D? JW-time is c x T.... B-special general relativity next
38:33.971 music: McP song collection; B-banjo space music; back w/ BM on phone, card carrying members, JW-"cannot lose it" not in my spacetime. July meeting Yair Arcavi, Aug-Karl Blasius Mars. B-monolith. Genius TV show on Einstein..how can something go thru nothing. JW-just wrote on that in SBAU newsletter, zero in math. Can vacuum exist? no motion in vacuum? 1644 Torrecelli made vacuum with mercury in tube. Barometer. B-spec/gen rrelativity? JW-special is at constant velocity, zero acceleration, e=mc2, time dilation, twin paradox. General is with acceleration taking place, elevator falling. grav mass = inertia mass. JW-space ships that rotate to make gravity. B-earth? JW-want to travel in straight line, feel gravity from mass. BM-gravity sucks JW-there is no gravity the earth sucks. B-so? JW-expl the universe CM-then quantum mechanics. LHC and Fermi Lab chicago. Texas was too expensive for a LHC during Vietnam war. B-anti-matter in LHC? JW-can hold in magnetic bottle. Star Trek Enterprise amount? JW-copius amount maybe in another method. Classical vacuum take everything out. B-anti-protons, positrons = explosion? BM-energy.
49:14.323 music: star trek tv; B-why not more members for AU? many listeners TT-millions on internet. B-trojan asteroids? CM-occulations TT-how many looking at same occultations? CM-up to 80, but usually just a few. B-billions of rocks? how to nail one? CM-100Ks know. TT-only in belt? CM-also near earth objects. CM-trojans in same orbit as planet BM-lagrange point. B-Ceres, dwarf planet. B-wrap up hour outreaches, Museum, Westmont. CM-Cachuma in July. JW-Neil Degrasse Tyson, Physics not a belief system.
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Programs & Speakers / Potluck June 2, 2017 Friday eat at 6pm 30 folks so far
« on: May 15, 2017, 07:27:53 PM »
name # in party potluck dish
Tom/CezT 2 chicken & greek salad
ArtH 2 Jello
Martin/JanetM 2 potato & macaroni salad
RonH 1 chips & dip
TonyT 1 mac cheese bake
ZandraC 1 chicken salad
JerryW/PatF 2 chicken enchiladas
JimW 1 thai food
JohnE 2 german potato salad kielbasa
JoeD/Connie 2 tbd
MarkP 1 chips a/o soda
PatrickW 2 tbd
MikeC 2 tbd & jelly bellies
Russel/Diane 2 sweet
DoraD 1-2 dessert
EdgarO 1 chicken
ArdianL 2 tbd
BillC 2 tbd
BobB 1-2 tbd
Tom/CezT 2 chicken & greek salad
ArtH 2 Jello
Martin/JanetM 2 potato & macaroni salad
RonH 1 chips & dip
TonyT 1 mac cheese bake
ZandraC 1 chicken salad
JerryW/PatF 2 chicken enchiladas
JimW 1 thai food
JohnE 2 german potato salad kielbasa
JoeD/Connie 2 tbd
MarkP 1 chips a/o soda
PatrickW 2 tbd
MikeC 2 tbd & jelly bellies
Russel/Diane 2 sweet
DoraD 1-2 dessert
EdgarO 1 chicken
ArdianL 2 tbd
BillC 2 tbd
BobB 1-2 tbd
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Outreach & Events / 170508 KZSB radio 2nd Mon replay 46min crop B,JW,TW,BM,CM,TT NYTimes May talks
« on: May 14, 2017, 09:53:09 PM »
00:00.000 170508 KZSB radio intro w Baron, [see attached 46min audio file from Sunday 170514 replay 3pm]
00:15.456 Star Wars theme music; B-intro's: TomT-refreshments, JerryW-Prez, TomW-news, phone: BruceM, prez of organ society; & in Indiana, ChuckMcP-outreach, Pat, (nephew Daniel Cassidy graduating UI), B-Chuck give outreach like your face we had on the screen [by MikeF] at the May meeting? CM-June 2 potluck, 3rd Fri Westmont, Telescope Workshops on Tues; TimC sends out communications; ColinT treasury report; "I would not join a club that would have me"-Mark Twain; Groucho-smuggler. Baron-lenses? TomW-mirrors; MikeC 14" porthole glass, B-smear w/ metal? JW-vacuum deposition of aluminum; TomW- Bob Fees up in bay area. B-grinding? JW-silicon carbide, used to be sand between stones; JW-hogged out using diamond grinding wheel. B-Hubble problems? Bruce-final shape was bad. B-lasers? JW-laser interferometry. Celestron, Meade, TeleVue, A-P. JW-webcams on telescopes. Tony Galvan-used camera wo telescope (worked at NCAR, nat center atmos res). ArtH 12"? lens + mirror JW- TT-ArtH to sell, RTMC, JW-generally half off. KZSB names TT,CM,JW.
14:42.090 Star Wars music; BW-lives in IV; TomW-NY Times Science Tuesday: Stamp to commemorate Total Solar Eclipse Aug 21, touch to change sun to moon, temp sensitive ink; TT-back of sheet of stamps shows eclipse path; TT-hope it is a "forever" stamp; Monday, Aug 21, Tele outreaches CM-see pigeons early summer eves;
TomW-NYT: building blocks from Mars soil, using pressure to make red bricks wo a kiln. stronger than steel reinforced concrete; TT-moon dust 3D printer; JW-grains fuse TomW-squeezed out creatures, called Lunatics, JW-unfortunately they made it to earth, and all named Pat [PM-"I heard that"]; B-only a couple of years for rovers? CM-90 days originally. Curiousity, Opportunity still work on Mars. B-wheel dragging, found something? JW-salt, but at pole water was found. B-caves on Mars? JW-lava tubes found; B-Mars show showed that. TomW-Mars bars. B-May meeting open mic, one speaker did not show? JW-Karl Blasius coming up in a few months on latest mars rover info.
23:57.091 Star Wars music: B-organizing a topic is not normal for this group. TomW-gets NYT by 5am. B-google news does same. TW-Cassini deep dives btw Saturn and rings. 21 more dives, Sept 15 is final plunge into the planet. JW-do not want to contaminate moons. B-Titan had parachute ride down w/ Hyguens probe dropped by Cassini. Need to put on Planetarium dome. or Pat & Chuck dancing. CM-nothingess found, few hits on satellite. B-Juno going around Jupiter? JW-not sure of death date, but big elliptical orbits CM-maybe 2 yr mission. B-why radiation around Jupiter? JW-captures ionizing particles B-like earth JW-van allen belts. TT-what particles are they? Nuclear? JW-Nu-cle-ar. BM-particles from sun. JW-determining gravity fields around Jupiter. BM-bulging at equator. JW-we dumped a satellite into Jupiter before. B-Voyager did pass bys of Jupiter before? Passengers movie swung spacecraft around a star, 40 sec, B-another break, back w/ AU hour
32:24.029 B-Star Wars! will the franchise ever end? Intro CM,BM, TT-United Meth church organ heard last Sat SBCC, "double double boil and trouble" sang in church! TomW-Cepheid variable stars Westmont 24" scope used, use model for pulsation. CM-Polaris is one, hard to get distance? TomW-Yes. TW-study ones with a few tenths of magnitude. JW-satellites use star patterns to orientate, but one time a star disappeared because it was a variable, and the satellite had to be reprogrammed. TW-first stars to extend the distance ladder. JW-one found in Andromeda galaxy, and helped to get distance to it, inverse square law, and proved it to be outside of our galaxy. Hubble did that. TT-Henrietta Levitt? JW-she did study on the Cepheid variables. B-not changing mass? TW-color and temperature. B-event horizons coming up by JW.
40:58.288 B-SBAU had an interesting round robin of talks at the meeting. BM said that "there are more black holes in the universe than stars" possibly dark matter. JW-talked about telescope the size of the earth of radio telescopes at extremes of the earth. Took exposure over 5 days, looking for high resolution of the black hole at center of Milky Way and core of M81 galaxy (Bodes), perhaps to view the event horizon. Parsec=3.26 light years. B-parallax involved? JW-right. TT-frequency of light used? JW-millimeters, can be influenced by water in atmosphere. B-your article in newsletter JW-on telescope making. BM-tomorrow night telescope workshop. TomW-Nat geo program on Einstein is good.
46:17.106 end
00:15.456 Star Wars theme music; B-intro's: TomT-refreshments, JerryW-Prez, TomW-news, phone: BruceM, prez of organ society; & in Indiana, ChuckMcP-outreach, Pat, (nephew Daniel Cassidy graduating UI), B-Chuck give outreach like your face we had on the screen [by MikeF] at the May meeting? CM-June 2 potluck, 3rd Fri Westmont, Telescope Workshops on Tues; TimC sends out communications; ColinT treasury report; "I would not join a club that would have me"-Mark Twain; Groucho-smuggler. Baron-lenses? TomW-mirrors; MikeC 14" porthole glass, B-smear w/ metal? JW-vacuum deposition of aluminum; TomW- Bob Fees up in bay area. B-grinding? JW-silicon carbide, used to be sand between stones; JW-hogged out using diamond grinding wheel. B-Hubble problems? Bruce-final shape was bad. B-lasers? JW-laser interferometry. Celestron, Meade, TeleVue, A-P. JW-webcams on telescopes. Tony Galvan-used camera wo telescope (worked at NCAR, nat center atmos res). ArtH 12"? lens + mirror JW- TT-ArtH to sell, RTMC, JW-generally half off. KZSB names TT,CM,JW.
14:42.090 Star Wars music; BW-lives in IV; TomW-NY Times Science Tuesday: Stamp to commemorate Total Solar Eclipse Aug 21, touch to change sun to moon, temp sensitive ink; TT-back of sheet of stamps shows eclipse path; TT-hope it is a "forever" stamp; Monday, Aug 21, Tele outreaches CM-see pigeons early summer eves;
TomW-NYT: building blocks from Mars soil, using pressure to make red bricks wo a kiln. stronger than steel reinforced concrete; TT-moon dust 3D printer; JW-grains fuse TomW-squeezed out creatures, called Lunatics, JW-unfortunately they made it to earth, and all named Pat [PM-"I heard that"]; B-only a couple of years for rovers? CM-90 days originally. Curiousity, Opportunity still work on Mars. B-wheel dragging, found something? JW-salt, but at pole water was found. B-caves on Mars? JW-lava tubes found; B-Mars show showed that. TomW-Mars bars. B-May meeting open mic, one speaker did not show? JW-Karl Blasius coming up in a few months on latest mars rover info.
23:57.091 Star Wars music: B-organizing a topic is not normal for this group. TomW-gets NYT by 5am. B-google news does same. TW-Cassini deep dives btw Saturn and rings. 21 more dives, Sept 15 is final plunge into the planet. JW-do not want to contaminate moons. B-Titan had parachute ride down w/ Hyguens probe dropped by Cassini. Need to put on Planetarium dome. or Pat & Chuck dancing. CM-nothingess found, few hits on satellite. B-Juno going around Jupiter? JW-not sure of death date, but big elliptical orbits CM-maybe 2 yr mission. B-why radiation around Jupiter? JW-captures ionizing particles B-like earth JW-van allen belts. TT-what particles are they? Nuclear? JW-Nu-cle-ar. BM-particles from sun. JW-determining gravity fields around Jupiter. BM-bulging at equator. JW-we dumped a satellite into Jupiter before. B-Voyager did pass bys of Jupiter before? Passengers movie swung spacecraft around a star, 40 sec, B-another break, back w/ AU hour
32:24.029 B-Star Wars! will the franchise ever end? Intro CM,BM, TT-United Meth church organ heard last Sat SBCC, "double double boil and trouble" sang in church! TomW-Cepheid variable stars Westmont 24" scope used, use model for pulsation. CM-Polaris is one, hard to get distance? TomW-Yes. TW-study ones with a few tenths of magnitude. JW-satellites use star patterns to orientate, but one time a star disappeared because it was a variable, and the satellite had to be reprogrammed. TW-first stars to extend the distance ladder. JW-one found in Andromeda galaxy, and helped to get distance to it, inverse square law, and proved it to be outside of our galaxy. Hubble did that. TT-Henrietta Levitt? JW-she did study on the Cepheid variables. B-not changing mass? TW-color and temperature. B-event horizons coming up by JW.
40:58.288 B-SBAU had an interesting round robin of talks at the meeting. BM said that "there are more black holes in the universe than stars" possibly dark matter. JW-talked about telescope the size of the earth of radio telescopes at extremes of the earth. Took exposure over 5 days, looking for high resolution of the black hole at center of Milky Way and core of M81 galaxy (Bodes), perhaps to view the event horizon. Parsec=3.26 light years. B-parallax involved? JW-right. TT-frequency of light used? JW-millimeters, can be influenced by water in atmosphere. B-your article in newsletter JW-on telescope making. BM-tomorrow night telescope workshop. TomW-Nat geo program on Einstein is good.
46:17.106 end
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Outreach & Events / 170410 KZSB 2nd Mon SBAU radio show Baron, JW,CM,BM Space Elevator, binary stars
« on: April 10, 2017, 12:37:33 PM »
170410 KZSB SBAU radio show quick sloppy notes:
(see attached radio audio file to click on or download to play)
00:00.000 approx. 840am, pre-show talk: B-trying to think of songs w/ girls names, and Texas has several. JerryW in, TomT not, B-SBAU next May meeting, AdrianL looking for members to talk? B-signed up to ask Q's. Save me for afterwards? signed up to bring food to meeting. JW-several members want to speak, 2 open w/ May speaker skipping till August.
03:12.240 B-(talk w/ Donny) Felt guilty so bringing potluck food hot dogs or chips/dip to SBAU potluck next time.
03:47.679 B-waiting for capt. Breadbaker coming in? TomT has cold, maybe star party?
04:12.430 B-Full moon, sat night. Aug 21, Total Solar eclipse coming up. nw to se. CM-72% covered in SB.
05:02.353 KZSB names. looney tunes. B-Bruce, did you set up telescope in driveway? yes 40ft from Chuck. JW yours there? no. B-assignments? CM-used to give out handouts; students sometimes get extra credit. JW-sometimes folks as for things; easy GoTo system on mount. BM-will do a tour w/ folks. B-color on Chucks? CMcP-Orion nebula in sword.
08:22.046 ~905am SBAU show start: music: Where are you little star? B-three here, one on phone, missing TomW, TomT; BruceM on phone, sits up front at meetings. 1st Fri, then 2nd Sat. JW and CMcP outreaches so much, he could not make last Friday general meeting, since he was outreaching. CM-El Cap, under tarp in rain showing rocks. B-BruceM take telescopes out? Bruce almost all. Places: CM-Carp St. Beach, Refugio, Cachuma, Bacara... B-Camino Real Market, very bright BM-do it for the bright moon or venus. CM-1st qrt moon. BM-caters illum from side, some sense of depth. B-cannot see stuff on moon w/ biggest telescope? JW-not big enough, tele not big enuf. CM-LRO pics on moon can now see footprints; by NASA. BM-from earth of Apollo stuff would need 2mi across mirror. JW-30M tele. B-golden age of astronomy, every week something new. CM-chem sees electrons. B-Club telescope aspect; giveaways of telescopes? JW-bought or donated, usu. a raffle to giveaway. Also, AU has scopes you can use 12". B-in club are SBCC Erin Oconnor, CM-Sean Kelly, gave a talk. B-Sean Space Elevators talk last friday. Carbon nanotubes. JW-showed video of manuf, single layer flat hexagonal, rolled in tubes, strongest material. B-Arthur C. Clarke came up w/ elevator, climbs cable. JW-23K miles long. I'm calibrated in old english system. B-confusing to convert temps? JW-F,C,K BM-metric system is nice, no conversion factors for MKS needed. B-which came first? BM-English system. Cubits? 866-564-1290, streaming on newspress.com.
19:00.222 all rise, monkey has learned how to use a bone 2001 music; psychotic red lens talking to astronauts; B-Jim Salser invited me to Oxnard rock event, bringing Led Zepellin, got to talk real low using Strauss to intro group. Bruce-Pres Arlington Theatre Organ Society, 4 man, 27 rank. Hal Conklin on board, running for mayor. Anyone can play organ. B-any office of AU? BM-no, but 127 outreaches last year. B-was unfamiliar w/ outreach before joining SBAU. CM-was computer nerd. JW-SBRC. Some folks snuck signatures on spacecraft components. 1998 Raytheon bought all of SBRC - Hughes, changed name to Direct TV. B-Delco? JW-part of GM, Hughes was part of GM. BM-when Hughes was taking over GM, but salaried union was upset. JW-Hughes in 1957. started w/ Hughes research 1969, building Ranger to land on moon, it is said Hughes called to freeze the design as it worked adequately, not what engineers like to do. B-today Nasa, Musk, Bezos. getting boosters back. Rockets landing engines first. JW-like old scifi stories. Companies work w/ UCSB, some call area Silicon Beach. B-does Univ have Obs of own? CM-Sedgwick. BM-robotic telescope. B-ticks me off, DJs can run by laptop computer vs playing records directly. B-did JW hit retirement age? JW-retired to avoid 10% loss in pay. CM-worked for little co. CompTech bought by Northup Gruman. Met Pat? 1988 BM-Delco 37 years, EE, all interesting. Reliability 14K ft of water instrument built 1972, still working, they cannot kill it. music...Ricard Strauss Thus spoke Zarathustra
30:34.509 "dah dah dum..., why havent i found you, oh baby, i tell every little star..." B-best star? CM-Alberio, BM-eye of swan. B-half of stars are double? CM-or triples. BM-Alberio stars 4700AU apart, 100K yr orbit. B-all doubles viewable? Cub scout star JW-UCLA star. CM-sometimes spectroscopic means needed to see. B-name some? Alpha Centauri, Eta Carina, Regulus, Sirius, BM-some vary Mizar/Algol. B-possible planets orbiting both stars at same time? CM-yes, both ways. JW-planets orbit sun. BM-Jupiter moves Sun almost its diameter. B-bigger stars far out from star? JW-giant gas planets are being found first as exoplanets near star, Hot Jupiters. B-saw on youtube, fast stars going around black hole in Milky Way, some binary, occasionally, binary could lose one to black hole? CM-could be three body interaction. JW-yes possible. CM-Globular Cluster have interactions like that, as stars get thrown off. B-MW has? CM-about 150 Globs. B-why not collapse? CM-energy flying around, no organized pattern. B-if collide? CM-maybe a Blue Straggler forms. B-2001, add mass to Jupiter, it would become a sun? JW-yes, Jupiter radiates infrared heat. B-Io heat? CM-tidal force heating. BM-many models of Callisto, layers of ice and salt water. B-life replication? CM-not sure of initial chemistry, RNA maybe. CM-polycyclichydrocarbons B-maybe we can go speed of light, stars fly by in scifi, CM-dont bump into one.
44:01.299 music: "I've got sunshine on a cloudy day...my girl". B-so much to talk about, if geology show CM-talk about rocks and exoplanets. B-next meeting, JW-guest had conflict, moved his talk to August. JW-hard to fit in small talks before a major one. making it a member's night, 3-4 talks. Adrian coordinating, 2 openings. B-i might have been first, but dont put me in if others apply, just wanted to ask questions. Exoplanets, odds of catch planets on the ecliptic? CM-transits; need several crossings to be sure. planets are like ants out there. JW-few %, just random. CM-0.5% chance of edge on catching planet around a star; also grav lensing, testament to how smart people are. BM-People thot that other solar systems would be like ours, but a lot of planets have short orbit times JW-those were picked up first. BM-but some thought it was just noise in signal. B-big teles? BM-just a camera. JW-spacecraft ones best. B-all stars systems disks? CM-less likely, but can happen. BM-pluto CM-Oort cloud of outer items. B-small galaxies merging w/ MW? JW-some limping away after merging. music: guitar twanging
50:47.999 music: weird noise to old astro music B-what is up? CM-Westmont outreach this Friday. 29th is Astro day at Camino Real Marketplace. mirror making, some goodies. all day, stars at night. prizes. B-rulers? B-fascination of so many things. JW-sometimes we do not know the answer. new knowledge, like relativity course as an undergraduate, takes time to understand. B-multiverse, cannot be known? Q's from folks. CM-They grade on a curve, because it is all relative. BM-article said real universe is 10 to 23rd larger than we can see. Everyone has Univ around thme of 18B light years. CM-13Blt yr radius. CM- sbau.org telescope tuesday. music: astro still playing in background into news!
55:45.148 end
(see attached radio audio file to click on or download to play)
00:00.000 approx. 840am, pre-show talk: B-trying to think of songs w/ girls names, and Texas has several. JerryW in, TomT not, B-SBAU next May meeting, AdrianL looking for members to talk? B-signed up to ask Q's. Save me for afterwards? signed up to bring food to meeting. JW-several members want to speak, 2 open w/ May speaker skipping till August.
03:12.240 B-(talk w/ Donny) Felt guilty so bringing potluck food hot dogs or chips/dip to SBAU potluck next time.
03:47.679 B-waiting for capt. Breadbaker coming in? TomT has cold, maybe star party?
04:12.430 B-Full moon, sat night. Aug 21, Total Solar eclipse coming up. nw to se. CM-72% covered in SB.
05:02.353 KZSB names. looney tunes. B-Bruce, did you set up telescope in driveway? yes 40ft from Chuck. JW yours there? no. B-assignments? CM-used to give out handouts; students sometimes get extra credit. JW-sometimes folks as for things; easy GoTo system on mount. BM-will do a tour w/ folks. B-color on Chucks? CMcP-Orion nebula in sword.
08:22.046 ~905am SBAU show start: music: Where are you little star? B-three here, one on phone, missing TomW, TomT; BruceM on phone, sits up front at meetings. 1st Fri, then 2nd Sat. JW and CMcP outreaches so much, he could not make last Friday general meeting, since he was outreaching. CM-El Cap, under tarp in rain showing rocks. B-BruceM take telescopes out? Bruce almost all. Places: CM-Carp St. Beach, Refugio, Cachuma, Bacara... B-Camino Real Market, very bright BM-do it for the bright moon or venus. CM-1st qrt moon. BM-caters illum from side, some sense of depth. B-cannot see stuff on moon w/ biggest telescope? JW-not big enough, tele not big enuf. CM-LRO pics on moon can now see footprints; by NASA. BM-from earth of Apollo stuff would need 2mi across mirror. JW-30M tele. B-golden age of astronomy, every week something new. CM-chem sees electrons. B-Club telescope aspect; giveaways of telescopes? JW-bought or donated, usu. a raffle to giveaway. Also, AU has scopes you can use 12". B-in club are SBCC Erin Oconnor, CM-Sean Kelly, gave a talk. B-Sean Space Elevators talk last friday. Carbon nanotubes. JW-showed video of manuf, single layer flat hexagonal, rolled in tubes, strongest material. B-Arthur C. Clarke came up w/ elevator, climbs cable. JW-23K miles long. I'm calibrated in old english system. B-confusing to convert temps? JW-F,C,K BM-metric system is nice, no conversion factors for MKS needed. B-which came first? BM-English system. Cubits? 866-564-1290, streaming on newspress.com.
19:00.222 all rise, monkey has learned how to use a bone 2001 music; psychotic red lens talking to astronauts; B-Jim Salser invited me to Oxnard rock event, bringing Led Zepellin, got to talk real low using Strauss to intro group. Bruce-Pres Arlington Theatre Organ Society, 4 man, 27 rank. Hal Conklin on board, running for mayor. Anyone can play organ. B-any office of AU? BM-no, but 127 outreaches last year. B-was unfamiliar w/ outreach before joining SBAU. CM-was computer nerd. JW-SBRC. Some folks snuck signatures on spacecraft components. 1998 Raytheon bought all of SBRC - Hughes, changed name to Direct TV. B-Delco? JW-part of GM, Hughes was part of GM. BM-when Hughes was taking over GM, but salaried union was upset. JW-Hughes in 1957. started w/ Hughes research 1969, building Ranger to land on moon, it is said Hughes called to freeze the design as it worked adequately, not what engineers like to do. B-today Nasa, Musk, Bezos. getting boosters back. Rockets landing engines first. JW-like old scifi stories. Companies work w/ UCSB, some call area Silicon Beach. B-does Univ have Obs of own? CM-Sedgwick. BM-robotic telescope. B-ticks me off, DJs can run by laptop computer vs playing records directly. B-did JW hit retirement age? JW-retired to avoid 10% loss in pay. CM-worked for little co. CompTech bought by Northup Gruman. Met Pat? 1988 BM-Delco 37 years, EE, all interesting. Reliability 14K ft of water instrument built 1972, still working, they cannot kill it. music...Ricard Strauss Thus spoke Zarathustra
30:34.509 "dah dah dum..., why havent i found you, oh baby, i tell every little star..." B-best star? CM-Alberio, BM-eye of swan. B-half of stars are double? CM-or triples. BM-Alberio stars 4700AU apart, 100K yr orbit. B-all doubles viewable? Cub scout star JW-UCLA star. CM-sometimes spectroscopic means needed to see. B-name some? Alpha Centauri, Eta Carina, Regulus, Sirius, BM-some vary Mizar/Algol. B-possible planets orbiting both stars at same time? CM-yes, both ways. JW-planets orbit sun. BM-Jupiter moves Sun almost its diameter. B-bigger stars far out from star? JW-giant gas planets are being found first as exoplanets near star, Hot Jupiters. B-saw on youtube, fast stars going around black hole in Milky Way, some binary, occasionally, binary could lose one to black hole? CM-could be three body interaction. JW-yes possible. CM-Globular Cluster have interactions like that, as stars get thrown off. B-MW has? CM-about 150 Globs. B-why not collapse? CM-energy flying around, no organized pattern. B-if collide? CM-maybe a Blue Straggler forms. B-2001, add mass to Jupiter, it would become a sun? JW-yes, Jupiter radiates infrared heat. B-Io heat? CM-tidal force heating. BM-many models of Callisto, layers of ice and salt water. B-life replication? CM-not sure of initial chemistry, RNA maybe. CM-polycyclichydrocarbons B-maybe we can go speed of light, stars fly by in scifi, CM-dont bump into one.
44:01.299 music: "I've got sunshine on a cloudy day...my girl". B-so much to talk about, if geology show CM-talk about rocks and exoplanets. B-next meeting, JW-guest had conflict, moved his talk to August. JW-hard to fit in small talks before a major one. making it a member's night, 3-4 talks. Adrian coordinating, 2 openings. B-i might have been first, but dont put me in if others apply, just wanted to ask questions. Exoplanets, odds of catch planets on the ecliptic? CM-transits; need several crossings to be sure. planets are like ants out there. JW-few %, just random. CM-0.5% chance of edge on catching planet around a star; also grav lensing, testament to how smart people are. BM-People thot that other solar systems would be like ours, but a lot of planets have short orbit times JW-those were picked up first. BM-but some thought it was just noise in signal. B-big teles? BM-just a camera. JW-spacecraft ones best. B-all stars systems disks? CM-less likely, but can happen. BM-pluto CM-Oort cloud of outer items. B-small galaxies merging w/ MW? JW-some limping away after merging. music: guitar twanging
50:47.999 music: weird noise to old astro music B-what is up? CM-Westmont outreach this Friday. 29th is Astro day at Camino Real Marketplace. mirror making, some goodies. all day, stars at night. prizes. B-rulers? B-fascination of so many things. JW-sometimes we do not know the answer. new knowledge, like relativity course as an undergraduate, takes time to understand. B-multiverse, cannot be known? Q's from folks. CM-They grade on a curve, because it is all relative. BM-article said real universe is 10 to 23rd larger than we can see. Everyone has Univ around thme of 18B light years. CM-13Blt yr radius. CM- sbau.org telescope tuesday. music: astro still playing in background into news!
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Outreach & Events / 170327 KZSB SBAU radio 4th Mon 9am, fr: Sunday 3pm repeat; B,JW,TW,CMcP Sun, etc
« on: April 02, 2017, 04:24:52 PM »
170327 KZSB SBAU radio show 4th Monday, from 9am Sunday 3pm repeat. Baron Ron Herron, Jerry Wilson, Tom Whittemore, Chuck McPartlin. click on attached file for audio playback.
far from perfect notes:
00:15.642 song: "calm and cloudless night...Galileo used his telescope for the very first time" JerryW, ChuckMcP, TomT not here, should take Yamaha w/ wife on back, he is at high desert. 1st Friday of month AU has speaker, Jupiter 5AU, occultation, Baron-Q's about Sun today, Sean Kelly meeting, Q's during talk? TomW not seated, Dr. Whittemore, Mcp is backbone of club, Chuck-more like rear end. B-Many outreaches, dont need Totton, kids like space. B-Sun, mostly H, JW-ball of plasma B-one of 4 states of matter, all of this H, in our Sun, 800,000 miles across, 100xEarth diameter. TW-fusion just in core. B-light we see came from inside. JW-some from surface, electron fall in levels as plasma cools. B-Sun fusing for 4.5Billion years, CM-3rd generation star B-begin of univ was all H CM-+He, CM-all protons in center, so need pressure to jam protons together to fusion. TomW-random walk of gamma rays JW-drunkard finding his car. JW-neutrinos go straight out from the core. B-all this stuff from the Sun may hit our DNA. JW-usually not good mutation. CM-like throwing piece of metal into car engine. "Galileo saw craters on the moon..."
14:08.078 Holst, Saturn music. B-where Cassini probe has been CM-14yrs. B-power from nuclear RTG. JW-launched over unpopulated areas usually. except for North Korea. Russia over unpop land. CM-text Q from Tim Crawford, why gamma rays turn into visible light. JW-Sun emits wide range. Dwarf star G2 is Sun, altho bigger than most stars. JW-heat is produced by absorption of light and emitted as infrared[?]. B-flares? JW-CME corona mass ejection, throws particles. CM-mag field lines reconnect gives flares. TW-mag field has a source and entry, and out and an in, in on the North, out on the South. JW- CM-Sun is a fluid ball B-Sun reverses? JW-all the time, mag field lines flip TW-differential rotation on the Sun, 27 days at equator, 36 days at poles of sun, causes mag fields. B-solar wind, we are protected by our Mag field, solar wind affected by Sun mag field? JW-sun mag field lines split during flares. CM-mag fields extend far out from Sun also, carrying things. B-Mars? JW-does not have dynamo, metal works well. TW-Zyman effect of mag field, earth about 1/2 Gauss.
25:40.959 Holst, Venus...B-all the planets are asleep with this music. TomW-Jupiter is wild. worked at Lockheed, solar group, missions on sounding rockets measuring solar corona. CM-possibly micro flares. JW-very low density. TW-13 electrons ripped from iron, so hot plasma. JW-leaving electrons behind like luggage. B-gold particles from Sun? CM-cosmic rays maybe heavy stuff. B-neutrinos at speed of light, not stopped. CM-can go thru 14 miles of lead before stopping. JW-earth is transparent to them. but neutrinos changed types between sun and earth. B-dangerous? JW-neutrinos postulated by Fermi that are not detectable. CM-detecting neutrinos now, give warning of a supernova happening. B-light tsunami. heavy elements seem grouped together. JW-earth lumps them together. B-Totton, he's not listening, probably in middle of cactus garden in Palm Springs.
32:40.183 Jean Luc Ponty music. B-jW sent email about not being able to describe the Big Bang, but some do? JW-singularity, could have been spread over large area in other dimensions, TW-brane. JW-like shower of sparks from metal colliding. B-discovering Dark Matter not counteracting? CM-more Dark Energy forcing things apart. Dark means we do not know. JW-may be property of spacetime itself. B-may come back together? JW-big crunch CM-gnab gib, big bang backwards. B-supernova like? JW-our sun will not slam together and bounce back like that. only white dwarf. B-Helium has 2 protons, 2 neutrons, why fuse to Carbon, not elements inbetween? TW-short lives of those elements. B-who knows this stuff? TW-quantum cowboys.
39:31.057 star trek Enterprise Tv show theme music "it's been a long time..." B-the Bare Naked Ladies did Big Bang Theory tv music. B-April 7 Sean Kelly will do talk on space elevators, started by Arthur C. Clarke JW-also sync satellites B-22K miles above. Asia has also? JW-yes, ring around the earth. B-need spider web material for elevator string? JW-stronger than spider silk. B-carbon? JW-single sheet of graphene is strongest, maybe rolled into a tube and many tubes together. B-lots of weight, how far out? CM-23K miles. JW-theoretically possible. B-not a rocket up? FAA rules on planes to not hit cable? B-know anything about Sean talk? CM-probably a rope and someone to volunteer... B-movie Gravity, toss ball to earth, it will go down? JW-depends how you throw it, hard enuf, like 17,500mph, it should drop straight down. B-last 30s, invite folks to join. CM-1st Fri april 7, 7pm, web page sbau.org, 2nd Saturday star party telescopes.
far from perfect notes:
00:15.642 song: "calm and cloudless night...Galileo used his telescope for the very first time" JerryW, ChuckMcP, TomT not here, should take Yamaha w/ wife on back, he is at high desert. 1st Friday of month AU has speaker, Jupiter 5AU, occultation, Baron-Q's about Sun today, Sean Kelly meeting, Q's during talk? TomW not seated, Dr. Whittemore, Mcp is backbone of club, Chuck-more like rear end. B-Many outreaches, dont need Totton, kids like space. B-Sun, mostly H, JW-ball of plasma B-one of 4 states of matter, all of this H, in our Sun, 800,000 miles across, 100xEarth diameter. TW-fusion just in core. B-light we see came from inside. JW-some from surface, electron fall in levels as plasma cools. B-Sun fusing for 4.5Billion years, CM-3rd generation star B-begin of univ was all H CM-+He, CM-all protons in center, so need pressure to jam protons together to fusion. TomW-random walk of gamma rays JW-drunkard finding his car. JW-neutrinos go straight out from the core. B-all this stuff from the Sun may hit our DNA. JW-usually not good mutation. CM-like throwing piece of metal into car engine. "Galileo saw craters on the moon..."
14:08.078 Holst, Saturn music. B-where Cassini probe has been CM-14yrs. B-power from nuclear RTG. JW-launched over unpopulated areas usually. except for North Korea. Russia over unpop land. CM-text Q from Tim Crawford, why gamma rays turn into visible light. JW-Sun emits wide range. Dwarf star G2 is Sun, altho bigger than most stars. JW-heat is produced by absorption of light and emitted as infrared[?]. B-flares? JW-CME corona mass ejection, throws particles. CM-mag field lines reconnect gives flares. TW-mag field has a source and entry, and out and an in, in on the North, out on the South. JW- CM-Sun is a fluid ball B-Sun reverses? JW-all the time, mag field lines flip TW-differential rotation on the Sun, 27 days at equator, 36 days at poles of sun, causes mag fields. B-solar wind, we are protected by our Mag field, solar wind affected by Sun mag field? JW-sun mag field lines split during flares. CM-mag fields extend far out from Sun also, carrying things. B-Mars? JW-does not have dynamo, metal works well. TW-Zyman effect of mag field, earth about 1/2 Gauss.
25:40.959 Holst, Venus...B-all the planets are asleep with this music. TomW-Jupiter is wild. worked at Lockheed, solar group, missions on sounding rockets measuring solar corona. CM-possibly micro flares. JW-very low density. TW-13 electrons ripped from iron, so hot plasma. JW-leaving electrons behind like luggage. B-gold particles from Sun? CM-cosmic rays maybe heavy stuff. B-neutrinos at speed of light, not stopped. CM-can go thru 14 miles of lead before stopping. JW-earth is transparent to them. but neutrinos changed types between sun and earth. B-dangerous? JW-neutrinos postulated by Fermi that are not detectable. CM-detecting neutrinos now, give warning of a supernova happening. B-light tsunami. heavy elements seem grouped together. JW-earth lumps them together. B-Totton, he's not listening, probably in middle of cactus garden in Palm Springs.
32:40.183 Jean Luc Ponty music. B-jW sent email about not being able to describe the Big Bang, but some do? JW-singularity, could have been spread over large area in other dimensions, TW-brane. JW-like shower of sparks from metal colliding. B-discovering Dark Matter not counteracting? CM-more Dark Energy forcing things apart. Dark means we do not know. JW-may be property of spacetime itself. B-may come back together? JW-big crunch CM-gnab gib, big bang backwards. B-supernova like? JW-our sun will not slam together and bounce back like that. only white dwarf. B-Helium has 2 protons, 2 neutrons, why fuse to Carbon, not elements inbetween? TW-short lives of those elements. B-who knows this stuff? TW-quantum cowboys.
39:31.057 star trek Enterprise Tv show theme music "it's been a long time..." B-the Bare Naked Ladies did Big Bang Theory tv music. B-April 7 Sean Kelly will do talk on space elevators, started by Arthur C. Clarke JW-also sync satellites B-22K miles above. Asia has also? JW-yes, ring around the earth. B-need spider web material for elevator string? JW-stronger than spider silk. B-carbon? JW-single sheet of graphene is strongest, maybe rolled into a tube and many tubes together. B-lots of weight, how far out? CM-23K miles. JW-theoretically possible. B-not a rocket up? FAA rules on planes to not hit cable? B-know anything about Sean talk? CM-probably a rope and someone to volunteer... B-movie Gravity, toss ball to earth, it will go down? JW-depends how you throw it, hard enuf, like 17,500mph, it should drop straight down. B-last 30s, invite folks to join. CM-1st Fri april 7, 7pm, web page sbau.org, 2nd Saturday star party telescopes.
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Outreach & Events / 170313 SBAU KZSB 2nd Mon Baron,JW,TW,CM,BM,TT Webb tele, galaxies
« on: March 19, 2017, 12:44:46 PM »
170313 SBAU hour on KZSB 1290am radio quick notes--see attached audio file for playback
00:00.000 Baron most news
00:06.885 it's 3am [this is the Sunday 3am show repeat after the 2nd Monday]
00:22.264 Holst Mercury in honor of TomW, searching stars for permanent theme. ChuckMcP, JerryW, TomT, wife's first names are Pat; BruceM, not going to solar eclipse due to lack of housing. TT-refreshments. B-sitting on rocks at SBMNH not that great for star parties. JW-I bring my own. Outreaches Chuck leading, TT-4 days a week, B-Camino real marketplace is bright, CM-but can see moon, double stars, Jupiter. B-Proxima Centauri closest? B-what is Trappist-1 star? CM-named after Belgian beer monks. TT-Budweiser planning to make beer on Mars. CM-marketing is key word. B-Vodka on Mars? Potatoes growing? 564-1290
09:31.143 Mars Holst. B-SBAU known by other names CM-SB Star Cluster. B-amazing stuff going on, new telescope named Webb CM-NASA administrator B-infrared on this one CM-1M miles out Lagrange point (L2) B-what is night vision goggles? JW-can be infrared or visible light BM-amplification. signal picked up by multiple earth satellites. B-CM planetarium show 20 min, Milky Way all the way around us, CM-thick toward center, B-radio look thru gas? CM-and infrared. JW-everytime a new wavelength, you see something new. First infrared satellites data was classified secret by Air Force. B-galaxies expanding away will be seen by this Webb. What about nearby galaxies? CM-no problem. JW-Local group with M31 possible blue shift coming towards us. B-TomW, what are you teaching right now. Analog computer building using 741 chips. BM-did moon simulation years ago with analog computer. TW-simulation of arms race using circuits, linear; parameters indicate fear, goodwill equations. Coupled oscillators, 2nd order diff eq, like pendulums attached to each other. Can use computer simulation, Data Studio, for labs at Westmont. B-lecture at lab? TW-yes, post ideas for students, like Pi day (March 14, 3.14). Raindrop simulation. Ardino modules. B-using batteries that burn up? TT-Lithium ion. CM-very dense power. TT-80% of batteries chargers for cell phones may be counterfeit.
21:46.627 Holst Jupiter B-getting physics lecture from TomW, like UCSB prof [Blaes] talking about black holes, got flapping arms as gravitational waves. TomW-students off this week, so trying to get Andrew to use op amps to simulate. lecture is going to be about math, which TW loves. B-Pi never repeats, CM-transcendental number. B-story of Pi? kid on lifeboat with tiger. what a movie! B-unsung wifes support you so well, do they enjoy talking shop with you? CM-occasionally. B-any single ladies interested? Saw a lot of SBCC students, some asian, who have to pay a lot, one switched to astronomy from business. JW-engineering firms hire them for math computer ability. TT-also wall street Quants. B-is there a whole generation getting into astro? BM-one student said first time he had looked thru a telescope. B-cameras on telescopes TT-CM uses time exposure; CM-showing spotted socks, called Poe a dot, MaxN also wears funny socks. BM-just had open console Theater organ last Sat.
31:34.093 Valkner music, Ride of the Valkyries. B-Dr. Whittemore, NYTimes article on SN1987A, sequence of pics of shockwave extending out. Missing a pulsar in middle. B-have to be close to see straight beams, so curved spirals? JW-spiral formed by spin. B-most galaxies are spiral? B-but also fuzzy galaxies? BM-galaxies outer speed same as inner area. B-how can we look back in time? BM-no center in universe. TT-B you are center of the universe. JW-traffic jam on S curve, is simulation of spiral galaxy arms, cars stop, then others back up, then go again. JW-Goldilocks zone for galaxy as well. B-galaxies have black holes, JW-some do not, other black holes? BM-read that more black holes than stars and planets!
39:34.848 Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Ralph Vaughan Williams. Richard Dupree, I am shy, so since you are off the air, you have listeners. B-what, we are not on? BM-have Celestron C8 telescopes. TT-have tried camera. CM-red stars are Carbon stars. JW-cameras can bring out the colors; a few people can see that thru telescope. B-arms in galaxy, tens of thousands between arms? CM-thousands. B-what is white dwarf? CM-eletrons degeneracy holding up star surface, very compressed. BM-look at M57, ring nebula, planetary nebula. JW-our star has solar wind, so perhaps planets will float farther away due to mass loss. B-30s: CM-Westmont Friday, JW-telescope workshop Tuesday night. 1st Fridays.
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00:00.000 Baron most news
00:06.885 it's 3am [this is the Sunday 3am show repeat after the 2nd Monday]
00:22.264 Holst Mercury in honor of TomW, searching stars for permanent theme. ChuckMcP, JerryW, TomT, wife's first names are Pat; BruceM, not going to solar eclipse due to lack of housing. TT-refreshments. B-sitting on rocks at SBMNH not that great for star parties. JW-I bring my own. Outreaches Chuck leading, TT-4 days a week, B-Camino real marketplace is bright, CM-but can see moon, double stars, Jupiter. B-Proxima Centauri closest? B-what is Trappist-1 star? CM-named after Belgian beer monks. TT-Budweiser planning to make beer on Mars. CM-marketing is key word. B-Vodka on Mars? Potatoes growing? 564-1290
09:31.143 Mars Holst. B-SBAU known by other names CM-SB Star Cluster. B-amazing stuff going on, new telescope named Webb CM-NASA administrator B-infrared on this one CM-1M miles out Lagrange point (L2) B-what is night vision goggles? JW-can be infrared or visible light BM-amplification. signal picked up by multiple earth satellites. B-CM planetarium show 20 min, Milky Way all the way around us, CM-thick toward center, B-radio look thru gas? CM-and infrared. JW-everytime a new wavelength, you see something new. First infrared satellites data was classified secret by Air Force. B-galaxies expanding away will be seen by this Webb. What about nearby galaxies? CM-no problem. JW-Local group with M31 possible blue shift coming towards us. B-TomW, what are you teaching right now. Analog computer building using 741 chips. BM-did moon simulation years ago with analog computer. TW-simulation of arms race using circuits, linear; parameters indicate fear, goodwill equations. Coupled oscillators, 2nd order diff eq, like pendulums attached to each other. Can use computer simulation, Data Studio, for labs at Westmont. B-lecture at lab? TW-yes, post ideas for students, like Pi day (March 14, 3.14). Raindrop simulation. Ardino modules. B-using batteries that burn up? TT-Lithium ion. CM-very dense power. TT-80% of batteries chargers for cell phones may be counterfeit.
21:46.627 Holst Jupiter B-getting physics lecture from TomW, like UCSB prof [Blaes] talking about black holes, got flapping arms as gravitational waves. TomW-students off this week, so trying to get Andrew to use op amps to simulate. lecture is going to be about math, which TW loves. B-Pi never repeats, CM-transcendental number. B-story of Pi? kid on lifeboat with tiger. what a movie! B-unsung wifes support you so well, do they enjoy talking shop with you? CM-occasionally. B-any single ladies interested? Saw a lot of SBCC students, some asian, who have to pay a lot, one switched to astronomy from business. JW-engineering firms hire them for math computer ability. TT-also wall street Quants. B-is there a whole generation getting into astro? BM-one student said first time he had looked thru a telescope. B-cameras on telescopes TT-CM uses time exposure; CM-showing spotted socks, called Poe a dot, MaxN also wears funny socks. BM-just had open console Theater organ last Sat.
31:34.093 Valkner music, Ride of the Valkyries. B-Dr. Whittemore, NYTimes article on SN1987A, sequence of pics of shockwave extending out. Missing a pulsar in middle. B-have to be close to see straight beams, so curved spirals? JW-spiral formed by spin. B-most galaxies are spiral? B-but also fuzzy galaxies? BM-galaxies outer speed same as inner area. B-how can we look back in time? BM-no center in universe. TT-B you are center of the universe. JW-traffic jam on S curve, is simulation of spiral galaxy arms, cars stop, then others back up, then go again. JW-Goldilocks zone for galaxy as well. B-galaxies have black holes, JW-some do not, other black holes? BM-read that more black holes than stars and planets!
39:34.848 Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Ralph Vaughan Williams. Richard Dupree, I am shy, so since you are off the air, you have listeners. B-what, we are not on? BM-have Celestron C8 telescopes. TT-have tried camera. CM-red stars are Carbon stars. JW-cameras can bring out the colors; a few people can see that thru telescope. B-arms in galaxy, tens of thousands between arms? CM-thousands. B-what is white dwarf? CM-eletrons degeneracy holding up star surface, very compressed. BM-look at M57, ring nebula, planetary nebula. JW-our star has solar wind, so perhaps planets will float farther away due to mass loss. B-30s: CM-Westmont Friday, JW-telescope workshop Tuesday night. 1st Fridays.
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Outreach & Events / 170227 KZSB SBAU radio 4th Mon cryptic notes B,JW,TW,CM,TT TRAPPIST planets etc
« on: February 27, 2017, 12:45:38 PM »
170227 KZSB SBAU radio show cryptic notes, download attached audio file for playback.
00:00.000 Roll over Beethoven, Janet surgery, TT used classifieds to find spouse, Baron, TomT, JerryW Std model new particles, low temp condensed matter physicists for JW, TW, Trappist-1 planets vs space size 40 light years away. AU hour for everyone.
03:37.710 gettin higher, Donny taking money out of the safe, AU guys, traffic smoothly, fire above Turnpike, M8RX bar Wed, 10 4min talks. Donny ringing bells, food by Tinkers.
06:00.467 Bill Paxton Aliens movie, died.
06:30.467 beginning of universe discussion.
11:20.159 "human nature to be afraid of the unknown"... B-welcome to AU hour; intros, Trappist-1 planets, dwarf red star, 7 names from Snow White; seen from earth, JW-10% of stars have plane of planets we can detect; CM-people thot it would be a waste of time to try to look for planets around other stars. JW-close in Jupiter types are too hot. CM-potentially all of Trappist-1 seven planets could have life. B-are all planets on an ecliptic? CM-on a plane, JW-because condensed from a disk. B-our ninth planet on the ecliptic? CM-highly inclined. JW-need energy loss to capture a planet from outside the original disk; TW-classes cover this, kids bring up news from the web; CM-Trappist monks make beer in Belgium. Telescope in Chile 24". [Kepler 55"] TW-Aquarius behind Sun this time of year. CM- no benefits to being an AU member. "Galileo"
21:58.336 "Galileo" AoTSB, Wed, TT ten talks; Friday AU meet; La la land comments; Richard Dupree we are in Aquarius Feb 14- Mar14, entered 16 yrs ago, due to precession TW-wobbling earth, 26K yrs; RD-can we see Trappist red dwarf star, no because of position near Sun right now. JW- possibly years of work before this 7 planet announcemnet; TW-if Sun basketball, Trappist sun would be a golf ball. B-on E-M spectrum RBG, TW-star dominated by infrared end of spectrum. TW- Times said red dwarf star may only look as bright as our Moon to these planets. B-all stars similar to our solar system? CM-probably a lot of life out there. JW-an organization of matter. M8RX, AU talks, Janet up and walking. "Al demeola jazz"
31:18.733 5th Dimension, "Age of Aquarius", B-precession? CM-throws out astrology; discuss, TT-"horoscope" meaning? TW-clock. JW-ancient times did not have Star Trek, so thot they were looking into Heavens. TW-planets passing thru zodiac. B-Orion's stars in belt moving? CM-can see proper motion with a telescope. Barnard's star can be seen. B-people naming stars like Tabby's/ CM-Nasa folks gives names to things, meteorite on Mars called SpongeBob SquarePants. Spirit shut down, but Opportunity arthritic, Curiousity working. B-Juno mission still going CM-still in wide orbit due to sticking engine valves JW-radiation belts around Jupiter like van Allen belts around earth. B-N pole positive? TW-North magnetic pole (actually is south based on field line directions) JW-not like protons electrons, only that similar ones repel each other. B-anti-matter?
41:19.241 "fall into a Black Hole" Aug 21 total solar eclipse, B-lear jet to track eclipse? Pres desk Q of month: why does not star fly apart as it forms from rotating disk that spins faster? JW-moment arm of angular momentum (distance of mass from center) as disk collapses, star rotation speeds up. a contradiction. B-stars around black hole of galaxy going faster as they get closer. TT-energy lost by sun growing north/south? CM-viscosity effect heat of mag fields? JW- Rigel spinning fast and bulges. plasma is a fluid. TW-Sun spins in one month CM-on average JW-mag field lines twist up and snap, sunspot cycles. charged plasma dragged. B-northern lights? CM-charged particles from Sun spin around mag field lines. JW-electron is a sink of an electric field, mag field around its path, not into the electron. N-S of iron magnet. ceramic magnets also. TW-will screw up credit card. "star of gas"
50:06.055 "star of gas" CM-thermonuclear fusion song. B-7 min left, 200 person club? TT-160. probably no trip. B-trip to Griffith last year. Ibrahim poet, looking for City poet. Wednesday, AoTSB, M8RX bar, 409 State. TT-good fun review of astronomy. Charlotte Mason, talk Friday for AU, galaxy evolution. B-Vegas has big screens nowadays. CM-calendar of outreach review. B-30min setup ea time, get sick and tired of doing? CM-no, it is fun! B-sky looks b/w CM-camera picks up color. B-Trappist planets, how do you see? JW-moving planets. B-did Arrival win? TT-screenplay? B-Contact Jodi Foster, can not show alien creature? JW-UFO folks have all sorts of clear representations. CM-leave something for imagination. B-bipedal creatures? CM-redundancy is good. "cloudless night..."
57:28.349 end of AU show
00:00.000 Roll over Beethoven, Janet surgery, TT used classifieds to find spouse, Baron, TomT, JerryW Std model new particles, low temp condensed matter physicists for JW, TW, Trappist-1 planets vs space size 40 light years away. AU hour for everyone.
03:37.710 gettin higher, Donny taking money out of the safe, AU guys, traffic smoothly, fire above Turnpike, M8RX bar Wed, 10 4min talks. Donny ringing bells, food by Tinkers.
06:00.467 Bill Paxton Aliens movie, died.
06:30.467 beginning of universe discussion.
11:20.159 "human nature to be afraid of the unknown"... B-welcome to AU hour; intros, Trappist-1 planets, dwarf red star, 7 names from Snow White; seen from earth, JW-10% of stars have plane of planets we can detect; CM-people thot it would be a waste of time to try to look for planets around other stars. JW-close in Jupiter types are too hot. CM-potentially all of Trappist-1 seven planets could have life. B-are all planets on an ecliptic? CM-on a plane, JW-because condensed from a disk. B-our ninth planet on the ecliptic? CM-highly inclined. JW-need energy loss to capture a planet from outside the original disk; TW-classes cover this, kids bring up news from the web; CM-Trappist monks make beer in Belgium. Telescope in Chile 24". [Kepler 55"] TW-Aquarius behind Sun this time of year. CM- no benefits to being an AU member. "Galileo"
21:58.336 "Galileo" AoTSB, Wed, TT ten talks; Friday AU meet; La la land comments; Richard Dupree we are in Aquarius Feb 14- Mar14, entered 16 yrs ago, due to precession TW-wobbling earth, 26K yrs; RD-can we see Trappist red dwarf star, no because of position near Sun right now. JW- possibly years of work before this 7 planet announcemnet; TW-if Sun basketball, Trappist sun would be a golf ball. B-on E-M spectrum RBG, TW-star dominated by infrared end of spectrum. TW- Times said red dwarf star may only look as bright as our Moon to these planets. B-all stars similar to our solar system? CM-probably a lot of life out there. JW-an organization of matter. M8RX, AU talks, Janet up and walking. "Al demeola jazz"
31:18.733 5th Dimension, "Age of Aquarius", B-precession? CM-throws out astrology; discuss, TT-"horoscope" meaning? TW-clock. JW-ancient times did not have Star Trek, so thot they were looking into Heavens. TW-planets passing thru zodiac. B-Orion's stars in belt moving? CM-can see proper motion with a telescope. Barnard's star can be seen. B-people naming stars like Tabby's/ CM-Nasa folks gives names to things, meteorite on Mars called SpongeBob SquarePants. Spirit shut down, but Opportunity arthritic, Curiousity working. B-Juno mission still going CM-still in wide orbit due to sticking engine valves JW-radiation belts around Jupiter like van Allen belts around earth. B-N pole positive? TW-North magnetic pole (actually is south based on field line directions) JW-not like protons electrons, only that similar ones repel each other. B-anti-matter?
41:19.241 "fall into a Black Hole" Aug 21 total solar eclipse, B-lear jet to track eclipse? Pres desk Q of month: why does not star fly apart as it forms from rotating disk that spins faster? JW-moment arm of angular momentum (distance of mass from center) as disk collapses, star rotation speeds up. a contradiction. B-stars around black hole of galaxy going faster as they get closer. TT-energy lost by sun growing north/south? CM-viscosity effect heat of mag fields? JW- Rigel spinning fast and bulges. plasma is a fluid. TW-Sun spins in one month CM-on average JW-mag field lines twist up and snap, sunspot cycles. charged plasma dragged. B-northern lights? CM-charged particles from Sun spin around mag field lines. JW-electron is a sink of an electric field, mag field around its path, not into the electron. N-S of iron magnet. ceramic magnets also. TW-will screw up credit card. "star of gas"
50:06.055 "star of gas" CM-thermonuclear fusion song. B-7 min left, 200 person club? TT-160. probably no trip. B-trip to Griffith last year. Ibrahim poet, looking for City poet. Wednesday, AoTSB, M8RX bar, 409 State. TT-good fun review of astronomy. Charlotte Mason, talk Friday for AU, galaxy evolution. B-Vegas has big screens nowadays. CM-calendar of outreach review. B-30min setup ea time, get sick and tired of doing? CM-no, it is fun! B-sky looks b/w CM-camera picks up color. B-Trappist planets, how do you see? JW-moving planets. B-did Arrival win? TT-screenplay? B-Contact Jodi Foster, can not show alien creature? JW-UFO folks have all sorts of clear representations. CM-leave something for imagination. B-bipedal creatures? CM-redundancy is good. "cloudless night..."
57:28.349 end of AU show
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Outreach & Events / 170213 KZSB SBAU radio B,JW,TW,CM,TT 2nd Monday solar eclipse, Titan, etc
« on: February 13, 2017, 04:05:57 PM »
170213 KZSB SBAU radio show hosted by Baron, Ron Herron, see attached audio file to download and play back:
Sloppy notes:
00:00.000 TomT in; Supremes music; TT impressed w/ lack of problems on crowded highway; B-telescope society? TT-AU, B-ParSec, JerryW entering, =parallax angle of one arcsecond
02:52.761 Earth-Sky NASA Aug 2012 launched mission studing Van Allen Belts, two doughnut shaped rings, radiation belts, twin spacecraft will sample area, Donny Vegas
04:45.403 Donny pool playing, JW voice recording for promo; B-Sat meeting, JW-Admin, TT-planning; B-trip anywhere? JW-maybe not this year; TT-Allosphere at UCSB? ChuckM-30 foot sphere, like Star Trek Holodeck;
07:10.252 scary space news, first daily donald trump news
07:34.201 I feel good; B-4 movers/shakers of club; TomW teaching lab on E-M for Life Science students, Pre-Meds; B-electricity/gravity questions later;
09:58.223 Chuck kazoo music, star of gas; B-pizza; AU unit, bigger group called the Parsec unit, intro's; JW-member of LA astro group at Griffity Obs B-where they danced into the sky; CM-credits to galaxy photo in background. B-SBAU went down there last August, very crowded. B-tells us schedule of events...TT-Westmont 3rd Friday, but looks to be a rainout. B-what goes on there? TomW-teach at Winter Hall, bio, physics, psych, computer sci; teach labs, circuits. TW-wanted JerryW to come out, but JW going to France. JW taught before at UCLA, doctorate Condensed Matter Physics. Chuck, stand up comedian. TT-I can do up to 3rd grade. B-i check out Google and Youtube info, latest space; CM-talk Feb 22 Lars Bilsten, helioseismology, at SBMNH. Black Hole music.
19:20.771 Black Hole music...traffic announcement re: Turnpike. B-big eclipse, Aug 21, partial in California. JW-Oregon, taking solar telescope for viewing before the eclipse, near Salem. TW-eastern Oregon or Wyoming. TT-any science during the solar eclipse? JW-Corona, CM-solar size variation. TW-Lockheed labs looking at solar corona, eclipse in Philipines, combined data. B-rest of world does not see eclipse? CM-71% in SB, events in SB at MNH, Moxi; JW-use a collander for many eclipses at once. B-space station saw a black shadow on earth. CM-just moon shadow. JW-may have been a conspiracy website. B-What is Nibiru? giant planet past pluto? Planet Nine. B-sun, just hydrogen? but 90 other elements in Sun. CM-star barf. B-but where in Sun? JW-just trace elements. CM-H,He,Li,Be at Big Bang. B-planets at that point? CM-gas planets. TW-elements shown in spectrum emission lines. B-what is surface at sun, fusion? CM-layers. B- after 100K years, photons at surface. Corona 1M degrees, but tenuous. discuss element formation in stars. fusion vs. fission. TW-"gone fission". Star Trek Enterprise music: not gonna hold me down, got faith of the heart"
32:55.690 Star Trek Enterprise music: not gonna hold me down, got faith of the heart" B-CM on drugs when picking the songs? B-told in school, stars just Hydrogen. hydrocarbons. B-Titan, moon of Saturn, is fog covered in this stuff. talk at Farrand by [Mike Malaska JPL]. JW- human powered wings would work in thicker atmosphere and less gravity. But very cold, 70K. Degrees discussion. C, F, K, not metric. 300K in room. B-surface of Titan, liquid hydrocarbons? JW-Yes. B-Hydrogen can be liquified? JW-Yes, but not on Titan. B-solids burn? JW-wood, Na, Cs, Mg. CM-62 moons of Saturn. JW-some in rings. CM-some retrograde, highly tilted orbits. CM-PHobos, Deimos of Mars thot to be collisional objects. jazz
41:42.893 "it was a calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo" CM-Astrocapella. B-something pushing on galaxy? JW-great repulsor, objects tend to move away, a dipole field, maybe a huge black hole. see: http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/02/04/ask-ethan-if-gravity-attracts-how-can-the-dipole-repeller-push-the-milky-way/#45198d144ed4 B-are not all galaxies moving apart? TT-clusters of galaxies JW-in zone of exclusion. CM-local group TT-local neighborhood of galaxies. CM-motions like eddys in a creek going different directions. JW-universe like foam with empty bubbles. B-like a filament? JW-Yes. we can see 13.5B LY. CM-everywhere is the center of the univers. TT-is this due to some Quantum Mechanic out there? JW-quantum mechanics music: "Copernicus was right...telescope w me, on the shoulders of giants"
48:13.505 music: star of gas. B-to join a group like the AU, is to see nighttime stuff. Venus, is it closest planet? CM-yes. Mars second. CM-Kuiper is disk of stuff, Oort is a cloud. Venus in evening. JW-best to see Venus crescent in early evening. CM-eclipse sun every 110 years. B-planets not on same plane? CM-all vary. B-Uranus turned sideways? cM-Yes. Pluto comes closer than Neptune, in ecliptic? CM-no, very tilted. B-Planet Nine. JW-they need to know distance or mass to find it. B-dwarf planet? CM-spherical JW-and not cleared its orbit. B-3? CM-5, but not Sedna. B-Voyagers off course? CM-an anomoly velocity caused by infrared pressure. Arrival movie, Heptapods. Feb 22 LCO talk at Museum. 56:01.497 end
Sloppy notes:
00:00.000 TomT in; Supremes music; TT impressed w/ lack of problems on crowded highway; B-telescope society? TT-AU, B-ParSec, JerryW entering, =parallax angle of one arcsecond
02:52.761 Earth-Sky NASA Aug 2012 launched mission studing Van Allen Belts, two doughnut shaped rings, radiation belts, twin spacecraft will sample area, Donny Vegas
04:45.403 Donny pool playing, JW voice recording for promo; B-Sat meeting, JW-Admin, TT-planning; B-trip anywhere? JW-maybe not this year; TT-Allosphere at UCSB? ChuckM-30 foot sphere, like Star Trek Holodeck;
07:10.252 scary space news, first daily donald trump news
07:34.201 I feel good; B-4 movers/shakers of club; TomW teaching lab on E-M for Life Science students, Pre-Meds; B-electricity/gravity questions later;
09:58.223 Chuck kazoo music, star of gas; B-pizza; AU unit, bigger group called the Parsec unit, intro's; JW-member of LA astro group at Griffity Obs B-where they danced into the sky; CM-credits to galaxy photo in background. B-SBAU went down there last August, very crowded. B-tells us schedule of events...TT-Westmont 3rd Friday, but looks to be a rainout. B-what goes on there? TomW-teach at Winter Hall, bio, physics, psych, computer sci; teach labs, circuits. TW-wanted JerryW to come out, but JW going to France. JW taught before at UCLA, doctorate Condensed Matter Physics. Chuck, stand up comedian. TT-I can do up to 3rd grade. B-i check out Google and Youtube info, latest space; CM-talk Feb 22 Lars Bilsten, helioseismology, at SBMNH. Black Hole music.
19:20.771 Black Hole music...traffic announcement re: Turnpike. B-big eclipse, Aug 21, partial in California. JW-Oregon, taking solar telescope for viewing before the eclipse, near Salem. TW-eastern Oregon or Wyoming. TT-any science during the solar eclipse? JW-Corona, CM-solar size variation. TW-Lockheed labs looking at solar corona, eclipse in Philipines, combined data. B-rest of world does not see eclipse? CM-71% in SB, events in SB at MNH, Moxi; JW-use a collander for many eclipses at once. B-space station saw a black shadow on earth. CM-just moon shadow. JW-may have been a conspiracy website. B-What is Nibiru? giant planet past pluto? Planet Nine. B-sun, just hydrogen? but 90 other elements in Sun. CM-star barf. B-but where in Sun? JW-just trace elements. CM-H,He,Li,Be at Big Bang. B-planets at that point? CM-gas planets. TW-elements shown in spectrum emission lines. B-what is surface at sun, fusion? CM-layers. B- after 100K years, photons at surface. Corona 1M degrees, but tenuous. discuss element formation in stars. fusion vs. fission. TW-"gone fission". Star Trek Enterprise music: not gonna hold me down, got faith of the heart"
32:55.690 Star Trek Enterprise music: not gonna hold me down, got faith of the heart" B-CM on drugs when picking the songs? B-told in school, stars just Hydrogen. hydrocarbons. B-Titan, moon of Saturn, is fog covered in this stuff. talk at Farrand by [Mike Malaska JPL]. JW- human powered wings would work in thicker atmosphere and less gravity. But very cold, 70K. Degrees discussion. C, F, K, not metric. 300K in room. B-surface of Titan, liquid hydrocarbons? JW-Yes. B-Hydrogen can be liquified? JW-Yes, but not on Titan. B-solids burn? JW-wood, Na, Cs, Mg. CM-62 moons of Saturn. JW-some in rings. CM-some retrograde, highly tilted orbits. CM-PHobos, Deimos of Mars thot to be collisional objects. jazz
41:42.893 "it was a calm and cloudless night...1609 Galileo" CM-Astrocapella. B-something pushing on galaxy? JW-great repulsor, objects tend to move away, a dipole field, maybe a huge black hole. see: http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/02/04/ask-ethan-if-gravity-attracts-how-can-the-dipole-repeller-push-the-milky-way/#45198d144ed4 B-are not all galaxies moving apart? TT-clusters of galaxies JW-in zone of exclusion. CM-local group TT-local neighborhood of galaxies. CM-motions like eddys in a creek going different directions. JW-universe like foam with empty bubbles. B-like a filament? JW-Yes. we can see 13.5B LY. CM-everywhere is the center of the univers. TT-is this due to some Quantum Mechanic out there? JW-quantum mechanics music: "Copernicus was right...telescope w me, on the shoulders of giants"
48:13.505 music: star of gas. B-to join a group like the AU, is to see nighttime stuff. Venus, is it closest planet? CM-yes. Mars second. CM-Kuiper is disk of stuff, Oort is a cloud. Venus in evening. JW-best to see Venus crescent in early evening. CM-eclipse sun every 110 years. B-planets not on same plane? CM-all vary. B-Uranus turned sideways? cM-Yes. Pluto comes closer than Neptune, in ecliptic? CM-no, very tilted. B-Planet Nine. JW-they need to know distance or mass to find it. B-dwarf planet? CM-spherical JW-and not cleared its orbit. B-3? CM-5, but not Sedna. B-Voyagers off course? CM-an anomoly velocity caused by infrared pressure. Arrival movie, Heptapods. Feb 22 LCO talk at Museum. 56:01.497 end
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Club Miscellaneous / 170130 SBAU member Mike Jogoleff’s obituary
« on: February 01, 2017, 01:22:11 PM »
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, President <president@ wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Bob Brown" <bobbrownsb@
> Date: January 28, 2017 at 10:17:07 AM PST
> To: "Chuck McPartlin" <macpuzl@
> Cc: <president@
> Subject: Mike Jogoleff
> Hello Chuck & Jerry,
> Here is SBAU member Mike Jogoleff’s obituary as it appeared in Friday’s News Press...
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/newspress/obituary.aspx?n=michael-p-jogoleff&pid=183733793&fhid=17760
> Might be nice to acknowledge Mike’s longtime membership in the club at our Feb. meeting, going back to the SB Astronomy Club’s days before they merged with the AU in the 1990’s.
> Bob Brown
Tom Cez <tomcez@
February 1, 2017 1:17 PM
to President, outreach, mike1, rubenalvag, bcc: me
Here are a couple of photos of Mike Jogoleff from Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27241501@N03/10677857514/
side view: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27241501@N03/8280608915/
Mike Farris may have some better shots when he was taking photos up front.
Do we need an obituary page for SBAU.ORG? I will post into the SBAU Forum under "Club Miscellaneous".
TomT
Michael P. Jogoleff
Obituary
Guest Book
"had many a trough with Mike, Dennis, and JoAnn....God Bless..."
- Tony Tiger
View Sign
March 24, 1946 to January 7, 2017
Santa Barbara native Michael "Jug" Jogoleff, 69, passed away January 7, 2017 after a courageous battle with cancer.
Michael was born at the Old Cottage Hospital. His mother Celeste, and Aunt Dorothy moved to his lifelong home in Santa Barbara in 1950. He attended Dolores Catholic elementary and Bishop Diego High school. After high school, Michael's thirst for knowledge was not quenched. Michael also studied with: the University of New Mexico; University of Portland; Thunderbird School of Global Management; Santa Barbara City College. He earned both Bachelors and Masters Degrees from these Institutions.
Michael's passion in life was Amateur HAM radio. WA6MBZ "Jug" had his fingerprints on decades of engineering and technical support within the Santa Barbara Amateur Radio Club.
He served for a time on the Board of Directors of this great organization. Michael also mentored the youth of Santa Barbara in Ham Radio techniques and history.
Michael was also very involved in his church; Our Lady of Sorrows Catholic Community. He prepared, and helped serve meals to the needy, and homeless. He also helped with many special events within the Parish.
Michael was a member of many organizations in Santa Barbara. Among them were: The Audubon Society; the University Club; The local Astronomy Club; Lifetime Member of the NRA, and the Bungalow Association. Michael organized a neighborhood block party with the close-knit friends on Panchita Place 14 years ago; that continues today.
Michael will be greatly missed by boyhood friend and neighbor; his Buddy, Joe. From all the adventures in the hills, looking for a little bit better signal, to the many trips back and forth to the hospital; Joe was always there.
Mrs. J. and Mike's family will be forever grateful to him.
Michael was preceded in death by: his mother: Celeste Reding Jogoleff; Aunt Dorothy Reding; Grandparents; Aunts; Uncles and a Cousin.
He is survived by Cousins residing in Iowa, Washington and Idaho.
Services were held at Our Lady of Sorrows on January 12, 2017. Michael was laid to rest at Calvary Catholic Cemetery, Santa Barbara, California.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Bob Brown" <bobbrownsb@
> Date: January 28, 2017 at 10:17:07 AM PST
> To: "Chuck McPartlin" <macpuzl@
> Cc: <president@
> Subject: Mike Jogoleff
> Hello Chuck & Jerry,
> Here is SBAU member Mike Jogoleff’s obituary as it appeared in Friday’s News Press...
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/newspress/obituary.aspx?n=michael-p-jogoleff&pid=183733793&fhid=17760
> Might be nice to acknowledge Mike’s longtime membership in the club at our Feb. meeting, going back to the SB Astronomy Club’s days before they merged with the AU in the 1990’s.
> Bob Brown
Tom Cez <tomcez@
February 1, 2017 1:17 PM
to President, outreach, mike1, rubenalvag, bcc: me
Here are a couple of photos of Mike Jogoleff from Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27241501@N03/10677857514/
side view: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27241501@N03/8280608915/
Mike Farris may have some better shots when he was taking photos up front.
Do we need an obituary page for SBAU.ORG? I will post into the SBAU Forum under "Club Miscellaneous".
TomT
Michael P. Jogoleff
Obituary
Guest Book
"had many a trough with Mike, Dennis, and JoAnn....God Bless..."
- Tony Tiger
View Sign
March 24, 1946 to January 7, 2017
Santa Barbara native Michael "Jug" Jogoleff, 69, passed away January 7, 2017 after a courageous battle with cancer.
Michael was born at the Old Cottage Hospital. His mother Celeste, and Aunt Dorothy moved to his lifelong home in Santa Barbara in 1950. He attended Dolores Catholic elementary and Bishop Diego High school. After high school, Michael's thirst for knowledge was not quenched. Michael also studied with: the University of New Mexico; University of Portland; Thunderbird School of Global Management; Santa Barbara City College. He earned both Bachelors and Masters Degrees from these Institutions.
Michael's passion in life was Amateur HAM radio. WA6MBZ "Jug" had his fingerprints on decades of engineering and technical support within the Santa Barbara Amateur Radio Club.
He served for a time on the Board of Directors of this great organization. Michael also mentored the youth of Santa Barbara in Ham Radio techniques and history.
Michael was also very involved in his church; Our Lady of Sorrows Catholic Community. He prepared, and helped serve meals to the needy, and homeless. He also helped with many special events within the Parish.
Michael was a member of many organizations in Santa Barbara. Among them were: The Audubon Society; the University Club; The local Astronomy Club; Lifetime Member of the NRA, and the Bungalow Association. Michael organized a neighborhood block party with the close-knit friends on Panchita Place 14 years ago; that continues today.
Michael will be greatly missed by boyhood friend and neighbor; his Buddy, Joe. From all the adventures in the hills, looking for a little bit better signal, to the many trips back and forth to the hospital; Joe was always there.
Mrs. J. and Mike's family will be forever grateful to him.
Michael was preceded in death by: his mother: Celeste Reding Jogoleff; Aunt Dorothy Reding; Grandparents; Aunts; Uncles and a Cousin.
He is survived by Cousins residing in Iowa, Washington and Idaho.
Services were held at Our Lady of Sorrows on January 12, 2017. Michael was laid to rest at Calvary Catholic Cemetery, Santa Barbara, California.
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Programs & Speakers / Feb 13, 2017 Science Pub talk on "Astrophysics Applied to Climate Change."
« on: January 23, 2017, 04:54:22 PM »
Science Pub: Astrophysics Applied to Climate Change
Monday, February 13, 2017
6:30 PM
Dargan's Irish Pub & Restaurant, 18 E. Ortega Street, Santa Barbara
Dr. Ray Weymann will present the February 13th Science Pub talk on "Astrophysics Applied to Climate Change." Learn about transitioning towards a low carbon emission economy. Dr. Weymann is a retired astronomer and astrophysicist, associated with the Carnegie Institution where he was director. His Ph.D. is from Princeton University. He is a founder of the Climate Science Rapid Response Team and past president of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Dr. Weymann has made notable contributions to astronomy in the areas of the evolution of high redshift galaxies and mass ejection from active galaxies. Admission is free but arrive early to get a seat and order food and drink. City parking lot #10 is located next door. For information call 805-682-4711 ext. 170 or scoleman@sbnature2.org.
Monday, February 13, 2017
6:30 PM
Dargan's Irish Pub & Restaurant, 18 E. Ortega Street, Santa Barbara
Dr. Ray Weymann will present the February 13th Science Pub talk on "Astrophysics Applied to Climate Change." Learn about transitioning towards a low carbon emission economy. Dr. Weymann is a retired astronomer and astrophysicist, associated with the Carnegie Institution where he was director. His Ph.D. is from Princeton University. He is a founder of the Climate Science Rapid Response Team and past president of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Dr. Weymann has made notable contributions to astronomy in the areas of the evolution of high redshift galaxies and mass ejection from active galaxies. Admission is free but arrive early to get a seat and order food and drink. City parking lot #10 is located next door. For information call 805-682-4711 ext. 170 or scoleman@sbnature2.org.
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Workshop Updates / 2017 Telescope Workshop notifications by TimC
« on: January 16, 2017, 10:09:53 PM »
I will try to keep these in order from latest to older emails from TimC or other announcers of the workshop nights. TimC does such great notifications! Note you can stretch the body of this note for a larger view. Photos posted of the workshops on Flickr (search sbau, telescope) or directly https://www.flickr.com/photos/sbaushots/albums . Font too small to read? Try Cntrl + "+" on your browser:
On 1/30/2017 1:48 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
> Tomorrow, Tuesday, January 31st we meet once again in Broder from 7:30-9 pm.
> Congratulations to Mike Chibnik for completing his 10" telescope and especially his fine mirror. The "e" and "f" stars in the trapezium are just waiting for you to observe cleanly!!!
> Let's continue with projects tomorrow night as well as speak of things to come. See you all there if possible.
On 1/23/2017 2:10 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings all,
> Tuesday, January 24, we are scheduling a workshop in Broder Building at the Museum. Usual time of 7:30-9 pm. May we please have the east gate open? Thank you!
> Please check the weather. We may have a little bit more precipitation yet. If any of you would like me to carry you and equipment over, let me know. We'll get you and equipment there and back from the parking lot.
> Hope to see you there.
> I will be going after a stubborn " turned down edge". For those of you on the email list not familiar with this, it is a somewhat typical flaw exhibited by the mirror during the figuring process. It is when the tool polishes away the edge of the mirror. This will effect the images your telescope will receive during observing. The way to correct a TDE is not to try to polish out the edge, but instead to attack the adjacent zone, that may be seen as "high". This way of looking at how to correct this is a pathway in learning to analyze problems that come up. It teaches us to look at things as a whole and not isolate any one part of the whole. To clarify this a little more though, with a TDE, we must correct it before we can go forward to figuring the entire mirror correctly. That may seem as a contradictory statement but it is not. The TDE is one of those singular issues that must be addressed before moving on to the whole mirror being completed.
> Need more clarification? Come on by and we'll let you know much more.
On 1/15/2017 9:20 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> We are scheduling a workshop this week, Tuesday, January 17th from 7:30-9. pm. I hope you all can join us at the Broder Building across the creek at the Museum. May we please get the east gate open? Thank you much!
> This week, projects continue. We have a new 14" mirror in the works now. There are at least 2 other projects going on as well. I believe there is an 8" and 10" mirror in finishing stages.
> In the future I will be taking on a 16" mirror. As I am getting older now, it is imperative to make these larger scopes light in weight. Otherwise, they will not get much use in the field at all. I suggest, if you have not done so already, looking into the scopes Albert Highe makes. He is an absolute genius when it comes to reducing the weight of scopes, making them portable as well as easy to use for older or challenged people.
> For me, I live in a home that has a set of steps to negotiate, coming and going to star parties. I got this 16" mirror a few years back when I wasn't so concerned getting it to the car or back in the house. Now, it has become a real issue. Please take this into account when you want to purchase a telescope. As we have all heard before, "the best telescope is the one you will use the most." How true!
> See you all Tuesday,
On 1/8/2017 9:13 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
> We meet again at the Broder Building this Tuesday night, from 7:30-9 pm. May we please have the east gate open? Thank you much. In fact folks, I want to give a shout out to Jacques at the Museum for helping us to have our Tuesday evenings go so well. Jacques is the man who opens up the buildings, makes sure we are all intact, before and after, and in general, is there for all our needs as well as looks after the Museum at night. Thank you so much Jacques!!!
> I also want to give a big congratulations to Mike Chibnik for completing his 10" mirror, that is now complete. ( I think the mirror is actually up north ). I know the scope is next to being complete now and awaiting first light. Hooray for you Mike!
> This week, I think we will be continuing projects or as with Mike he may be starting yet another project, a 14". As I alluded to last week, so much to do, so little time. Come on down and start a project for yourself, or come on by with a friend, an acquaintance to ask the experts for help with your scopes, your questions on astrophotography or just to tune up your optics.
> You are as welcome as the flowers in May ( and I'm actually looking forward to the flowers in May).
On 1/30/2017 1:48 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
> Tomorrow, Tuesday, January 31st we meet once again in Broder from 7:30-9 pm.
> Congratulations to Mike Chibnik for completing his 10" telescope and especially his fine mirror. The "e" and "f" stars in the trapezium are just waiting for you to observe cleanly!!!
> Let's continue with projects tomorrow night as well as speak of things to come. See you all there if possible.
On 1/23/2017 2:10 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings all,
> Tuesday, January 24, we are scheduling a workshop in Broder Building at the Museum. Usual time of 7:30-9 pm. May we please have the east gate open? Thank you!
> Please check the weather. We may have a little bit more precipitation yet. If any of you would like me to carry you and equipment over, let me know. We'll get you and equipment there and back from the parking lot.
> Hope to see you there.
> I will be going after a stubborn " turned down edge". For those of you on the email list not familiar with this, it is a somewhat typical flaw exhibited by the mirror during the figuring process. It is when the tool polishes away the edge of the mirror. This will effect the images your telescope will receive during observing. The way to correct a TDE is not to try to polish out the edge, but instead to attack the adjacent zone, that may be seen as "high". This way of looking at how to correct this is a pathway in learning to analyze problems that come up. It teaches us to look at things as a whole and not isolate any one part of the whole. To clarify this a little more though, with a TDE, we must correct it before we can go forward to figuring the entire mirror correctly. That may seem as a contradictory statement but it is not. The TDE is one of those singular issues that must be addressed before moving on to the whole mirror being completed.
> Need more clarification? Come on by and we'll let you know much more.
On 1/15/2017 9:20 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> We are scheduling a workshop this week, Tuesday, January 17th from 7:30-9. pm. I hope you all can join us at the Broder Building across the creek at the Museum. May we please get the east gate open? Thank you much!
> This week, projects continue. We have a new 14" mirror in the works now. There are at least 2 other projects going on as well. I believe there is an 8" and 10" mirror in finishing stages.
> In the future I will be taking on a 16" mirror. As I am getting older now, it is imperative to make these larger scopes light in weight. Otherwise, they will not get much use in the field at all. I suggest, if you have not done so already, looking into the scopes Albert Highe makes. He is an absolute genius when it comes to reducing the weight of scopes, making them portable as well as easy to use for older or challenged people.
> For me, I live in a home that has a set of steps to negotiate, coming and going to star parties. I got this 16" mirror a few years back when I wasn't so concerned getting it to the car or back in the house. Now, it has become a real issue. Please take this into account when you want to purchase a telescope. As we have all heard before, "the best telescope is the one you will use the most." How true!
> See you all Tuesday,
On 1/8/2017 9:13 PM, Tim Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
> We meet again at the Broder Building this Tuesday night, from 7:30-9 pm. May we please have the east gate open? Thank you much. In fact folks, I want to give a shout out to Jacques at the Museum for helping us to have our Tuesday evenings go so well. Jacques is the man who opens up the buildings, makes sure we are all intact, before and after, and in general, is there for all our needs as well as looks after the Museum at night. Thank you so much Jacques!!!
> I also want to give a big congratulations to Mike Chibnik for completing his 10" mirror, that is now complete. ( I think the mirror is actually up north ). I know the scope is next to being complete now and awaiting first light. Hooray for you Mike!
> This week, I think we will be continuing projects or as with Mike he may be starting yet another project, a 14". As I alluded to last week, so much to do, so little time. Come on down and start a project for yourself, or come on by with a friend, an acquaintance to ask the experts for help with your scopes, your questions on astrophotography or just to tune up your optics.
> You are as welcome as the flowers in May ( and I'm actually looking forward to the flowers in May).
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Outreach & Events / 170109 KZSB 1290AM SBAU radio show 2nd Monday 57min
« on: January 09, 2017, 07:19:28 PM »
170109 January 9, 2017 KZSB SBAU radio hour notes Baron, JW, CMcP, TW, TT
-play attached audio file to listen
833am pre-show conversations
00:00.000 lightning but no thunder heard by some, TomT refreshments, ChuckMcP re: Red Nova, Mike Brown planet Nine on 60 minutes.
03:05.962 gang here, Baron naming TT, JW, CMcP, JerryW planet formation meeting was great, Josh Garber, geologist. ChuckMcP scary email on Red Nova, CM-probably orange to our eyes, bright as Polaris. 2022.2 Mike Brown, planet nine, 10 earth masses. JW-not Mike Brown demoting Pluto, just found another object like Pluto. B-great time to be in astronomy. CM-story of naming Makemake. B-BruceM? CM-skiing. JW-TomW a last min guy.
08:10.578 phone ring, no caller; B-annoying calls technique, JW-once told phone company he could help them block calls.
09:40.458
09:50.422 CM-first tuesdays
9:05am
11:01.111 SBAU Show Part1: Universe in the Radio acapella, B-2nd, 4th Mondays, TomT will intro others B-this is an outreach, 6 of these get a free membership! 2nd Saturday at museum, 3rd Friday at Westmont. CM-school science nights, email outreach@sbau.org. B-TomW entering studio. B-red nova? TomT-Michigan Christian college discovered, they say they are better in astronomy, so Westmont should be able to do this as well. CMcP-two stars merging in 5 years, JW-like throwing more logs on fire. TomW-Roche lob of atmospheres combining, like CM said, peanut shaped. JW-gravity pull of one star to other. B-orbiting each other, CM-minutes apart, accretion disk with one particle 2022.2. TT-how detected? CM-see light pattern decreasing, JW-other stars have done that in past w/ same light curve, CM-in other cases, they see nova first and then go back in archive of astro photos. song: "when I was a child I tuned in to a galactic community"
22:10.010 acapella song cont.: "I look up to the sky at night...are we all alone..." B-intros, TT-food guy, JW-SB remote sensing, CM. B-satellite between sun earth? JW-Lagrange point, million miles; James Webb telescope avoids heat signature from earth. B-? JW-they will see fainter objects, Brown dwarf stars. B-do stars use fission? fusion! Jupiter would not qualify? CM-about 80 Jupiters would. JW-need 10M degrees in center. B-if on planet around a red dwarf, ok to look at a Red Dwarf star? CM-depends on distance TT-eyes might be bigger JW-may look like white to those evolved around that. Proxima planet seen by light variation, JW-spectral lines moving, gives estimates of how many planets. B-how many exoplanets? CM-about 4K now. TomW-wobbling stars, Jupiter mass causes a 5m/s pivot around center of gravity. earth causes 1m/s CM-and that can be measured. TT-so when planets line up, that causes earthquakes? JW-urban legend, 1964 that happened and folks claimed Calif would fall into the ocean. B-Q on TomW classes, wants to audit. TW-electronic circuits, life sci physics. self taught in electronics due to physics grad student. JW-dinosaurs back when I did that. B-magnatars talk in class? hard on iron in blood? JW-other things to worry about if near one! song "cruising at 78, over a hilltop, sun in her eyes...caught by a speedtrap..."
34:19.055 acapella song "xrays...heavy stars...supernovae...if we had xray eyes" B-shopping center setup a problem? CM-we choose the bright Moon nights there. B-Tuesday workshop at Museum? JW-3 of us there to help. B-James Webb? JW-Helium cooling to due Infrared work, 4 kelvin. B-spectrum, E-M, eyes visible light. Gamma, xrays? JW-fuzzy boundaries between named areas. low energy, longer wavelengths. B-visible betw infrared and ultraviolet. JW-organic molecules bonds can be broken by xray wavelength. Gamma is shortest, highest energy. B-radio waves can be made by oscillating crystal. How make gamma wavelength? JW-smash atoms. B-speed of light for E-M waves? JW-yes. Some sun items slower than speed of light. photons in sun? CM-emitted and absorbed many times, so gamma to xray to visible. JW-nuclear fusion.
44:06.377 acapella song "last century...latitude so low, you are a cloud in history..." B-spectroscopy how do frequencies line up? CM-temp indicated by spectra. JW-sun spectra shown to Baron. JW-black lines caused by colder gas above the sun absorbing light frequencies due to those elements. B-92 elements JW-some elements share lines TomW-continuous color from just inside sun surface, like a filament in a light bulb, black lines give the sun's signature. cooler gas absorb certain freq lines, Kirchhoff laws https://www.e-education.psu.edu/astro801/content/l3_p6.html , helium discovered in sun from spectra lines. CM-burn Ca in flame you get yellow light. Some elements of sun are 3rd/4th generation from other stars. song: "calm and cloudless night, shaking of universe to occur, Galileo used telescope for very first time"
51:18.247 song "he saw Jupiter w/ 4 tiny moons" B-SBAU will come and sing these TT-for a steep price B-lots of Astro talks in town, Tabby's star CM-public has Neil Degrasse Tyson as a rock star getting public excited. TomW-freq of visible 10^15, gamma 10^19. background radiation of universe is about 1cm wavelength, 21cm is used by astronomers. JW-billion waves in an inch for visible. B-want to audit class JW-maybe Westmont has policy to check on that.
57:25.953 end
-play attached audio file to listen
833am pre-show conversations
00:00.000 lightning but no thunder heard by some, TomT refreshments, ChuckMcP re: Red Nova, Mike Brown planet Nine on 60 minutes.
03:05.962 gang here, Baron naming TT, JW, CMcP, JerryW planet formation meeting was great, Josh Garber, geologist. ChuckMcP scary email on Red Nova, CM-probably orange to our eyes, bright as Polaris. 2022.2 Mike Brown, planet nine, 10 earth masses. JW-not Mike Brown demoting Pluto, just found another object like Pluto. B-great time to be in astronomy. CM-story of naming Makemake. B-BruceM? CM-skiing. JW-TomW a last min guy.
08:10.578 phone ring, no caller; B-annoying calls technique, JW-once told phone company he could help them block calls.
09:40.458
09:50.422 CM-first tuesdays
9:05am
11:01.111 SBAU Show Part1: Universe in the Radio acapella, B-2nd, 4th Mondays, TomT will intro others B-this is an outreach, 6 of these get a free membership! 2nd Saturday at museum, 3rd Friday at Westmont. CM-school science nights, email outreach@sbau.org. B-TomW entering studio. B-red nova? TomT-Michigan Christian college discovered, they say they are better in astronomy, so Westmont should be able to do this as well. CMcP-two stars merging in 5 years, JW-like throwing more logs on fire. TomW-Roche lob of atmospheres combining, like CM said, peanut shaped. JW-gravity pull of one star to other. B-orbiting each other, CM-minutes apart, accretion disk with one particle 2022.2. TT-how detected? CM-see light pattern decreasing, JW-other stars have done that in past w/ same light curve, CM-in other cases, they see nova first and then go back in archive of astro photos. song: "when I was a child I tuned in to a galactic community"
22:10.010 acapella song cont.: "I look up to the sky at night...are we all alone..." B-intros, TT-food guy, JW-SB remote sensing, CM. B-satellite between sun earth? JW-Lagrange point, million miles; James Webb telescope avoids heat signature from earth. B-? JW-they will see fainter objects, Brown dwarf stars. B-do stars use fission? fusion! Jupiter would not qualify? CM-about 80 Jupiters would. JW-need 10M degrees in center. B-if on planet around a red dwarf, ok to look at a Red Dwarf star? CM-depends on distance TT-eyes might be bigger JW-may look like white to those evolved around that. Proxima planet seen by light variation, JW-spectral lines moving, gives estimates of how many planets. B-how many exoplanets? CM-about 4K now. TomW-wobbling stars, Jupiter mass causes a 5m/s pivot around center of gravity. earth causes 1m/s CM-and that can be measured. TT-so when planets line up, that causes earthquakes? JW-urban legend, 1964 that happened and folks claimed Calif would fall into the ocean. B-Q on TomW classes, wants to audit. TW-electronic circuits, life sci physics. self taught in electronics due to physics grad student. JW-dinosaurs back when I did that. B-magnatars talk in class? hard on iron in blood? JW-other things to worry about if near one! song "cruising at 78, over a hilltop, sun in her eyes...caught by a speedtrap..."
34:19.055 acapella song "xrays...heavy stars...supernovae...if we had xray eyes" B-shopping center setup a problem? CM-we choose the bright Moon nights there. B-Tuesday workshop at Museum? JW-3 of us there to help. B-James Webb? JW-Helium cooling to due Infrared work, 4 kelvin. B-spectrum, E-M, eyes visible light. Gamma, xrays? JW-fuzzy boundaries between named areas. low energy, longer wavelengths. B-visible betw infrared and ultraviolet. JW-organic molecules bonds can be broken by xray wavelength. Gamma is shortest, highest energy. B-radio waves can be made by oscillating crystal. How make gamma wavelength? JW-smash atoms. B-speed of light for E-M waves? JW-yes. Some sun items slower than speed of light. photons in sun? CM-emitted and absorbed many times, so gamma to xray to visible. JW-nuclear fusion.
44:06.377 acapella song "last century...latitude so low, you are a cloud in history..." B-spectroscopy how do frequencies line up? CM-temp indicated by spectra. JW-sun spectra shown to Baron. JW-black lines caused by colder gas above the sun absorbing light frequencies due to those elements. B-92 elements JW-some elements share lines TomW-continuous color from just inside sun surface, like a filament in a light bulb, black lines give the sun's signature. cooler gas absorb certain freq lines, Kirchhoff laws https://www.e-education.psu.edu/astro801/content/l3_p6.html , helium discovered in sun from spectra lines. CM-burn Ca in flame you get yellow light. Some elements of sun are 3rd/4th generation from other stars. song: "calm and cloudless night, shaking of universe to occur, Galileo used telescope for very first time"
51:18.247 song "he saw Jupiter w/ 4 tiny moons" B-SBAU will come and sing these TT-for a steep price B-lots of Astro talks in town, Tabby's star CM-public has Neil Degrasse Tyson as a rock star getting public excited. TomW-freq of visible 10^15, gamma 10^19. background radiation of universe is about 1cm wavelength, 21cm is used by astronomers. JW-billion waves in an inch for visible. B-want to audit class JW-maybe Westmont has policy to check on that.
57:25.953 end
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Programs & Speakers / SBAU, Jan 6th, 2017 meeting, Friday, Josh Garber, Exoplanet Geology
« on: December 26, 2016, 04:10:33 PM »
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Outreach & Events / 161226 KZSB 4th Monday SBAU Baron radio show TW, CM, TT, BM; TomW-class; rings
« on: December 26, 2016, 03:55:26 PM »
161226 KZSB radio show notes, audio attached
00:00.000 B, ChuckMcp, arrived, TomT arrival, Passenger movie, B-ask TomW what class start is like. Ben Hayes, KZSB start.
04:48.096 Amos new years song;
11.39.055 Trail quest Big Caliente Hot Springs; earth/Sky ad
13:04.574 Frank Sinatra, Richard Dupree football score Miami of Ohio vs Mississippi State 3-0; "mass driver" TT-sounds like a coil, RD-1977 definition: large EM catapult, CMcP, Heinlein story? B-use Wikipedia to see Rail Gun. Ralph Roster Doster.
16:22.559 B
16:42.401 Holst-Jupiter B-sounds like a western; BruceM on phone,Organ society Pres; TT intro TomW, ChuckMcP; B-can handle more members? Fleischmann? TT-only 45 show normally; B-free membership if outreach; TT-KZSB is outreach; Westmont outreach was cold; B-start w/ ask TomW about Westmont class day one talk: TomW--lab, life sci majors, list experiments, computer driven experiments; Newton's law of cooling, Galileo gravity; honor students helping at Observatory. B-hygrometer w/ hair; BM-organ dates;
27:38.133
Holst-Mars B-Nat Geo Mars series on; half doc, then year 2033; BM-cox stupid little box; B-speaker on Novaes, supernovas, sun will not end like that; why does explosion occur, over gravitational collapse? TomW-core collapse, depends on mass CMcP-B asking why rebound and explosion. CMcP: neutron star fr electrons fuse w/ proton, rigid ball, gigantic flood of neutrinos creates shockwave plus outer onion skin thermonuclear explosions. B-fission vs. fusion TT-proton of H to He two protons+neutrons. CMcP Degenercy pressure B-if star size of earth orbit, 8min for explosion? CMcP neutrino detectors give pre-warning of explosion. 100 supernovas ea night. Milky Way, 1/century, we are overdue. CM-Betelguese astro seismology can be seen. Tenuous. JerryW said it gets hot.
39:27.239
Holst-Mars B-drama on Mars series, humans fighting, guest speaker, TT-Jan 6 Josh Garber, geology of exoplanets, CM-earth in context. TT-we need people to call 564-1290. B-this is a renaissance time, so many missions. Juno, Cassini, TT-ISS CM-MRO; B-live NASA. B-BruceM? BM-so many, pictures on wall of various Shuttle missions, over 100. Cal Sci Center. B-lost shuttles, Columbia, CM-predicted # of losses. B-Nat Geo series shows people in confinement, only 2 of 12 come out OK. B-Vandenberg has unmanned shuttle. Kelly brothers, talk in town, hard on body coming back to earth. BM-Lu talk. BM-astronauts over 6months, eyes get flat. BM-my telescope focus seems to match people even if they take glasses off. CM-accomodation. B-Saturn CM-close to sun, 29 yr orbit. B-farther planet from sun, the slower it goes. Jupiter spins once per 10 hours.
49:42.768
Holst-? CM-Star Cluster in 1950's, Joe Danley call w/ Q: full moon rainbow ring, what causes that? ice crystals? TT-22 degree ring, CM- Atoptics.uk webpage pictures of various effects. B-see circle if in a plane. TomW-ice crystals are hexangonal. B-solar eclipse next year? TomW-August 21, no telescope, just binoculars for trip. Annular eclipse vs. total. TomW-Sundogs prismatic refraction hexangonal on either side of Sun 60 degrees. B-spectrometer? RGYB. BM took pic of ring around moon.
56:12.586
Holst-Mercury B-AU society, will explain it if something seen; solar eclipse? TT-Oregon across US to Carolinas. TomW-east of Cascades. CMcP-Sheridan, Wyoming, just use eyeball. TomW-Venus is pretty right now. B-window to launch to Mars? two weeks, no gravitational assist needed. Juno & Cassini missions did use that. CM-RTG power, crash to Saturn in 2017. Voyagers, New Horizons, record attached, Hawking says not a good idea. BM-organ play, jan 14, CM-evening Star Party also.
62:32.613 end
00:00.000 B, ChuckMcp, arrived, TomT arrival, Passenger movie, B-ask TomW what class start is like. Ben Hayes, KZSB start.
04:48.096 Amos new years song;
11.39.055 Trail quest Big Caliente Hot Springs; earth/Sky ad
13:04.574 Frank Sinatra, Richard Dupree football score Miami of Ohio vs Mississippi State 3-0; "mass driver" TT-sounds like a coil, RD-1977 definition: large EM catapult, CMcP, Heinlein story? B-use Wikipedia to see Rail Gun. Ralph Roster Doster.
16:22.559 B
16:42.401 Holst-Jupiter B-sounds like a western; BruceM on phone,Organ society Pres; TT intro TomW, ChuckMcP; B-can handle more members? Fleischmann? TT-only 45 show normally; B-free membership if outreach; TT-KZSB is outreach; Westmont outreach was cold; B-start w/ ask TomW about Westmont class day one talk: TomW--lab, life sci majors, list experiments, computer driven experiments; Newton's law of cooling, Galileo gravity; honor students helping at Observatory. B-hygrometer w/ hair; BM-organ dates;
27:38.133
Holst-Mars B-Nat Geo Mars series on; half doc, then year 2033; BM-cox stupid little box; B-speaker on Novaes, supernovas, sun will not end like that; why does explosion occur, over gravitational collapse? TomW-core collapse, depends on mass CMcP-B asking why rebound and explosion. CMcP: neutron star fr electrons fuse w/ proton, rigid ball, gigantic flood of neutrinos creates shockwave plus outer onion skin thermonuclear explosions. B-fission vs. fusion TT-proton of H to He two protons+neutrons. CMcP Degenercy pressure B-if star size of earth orbit, 8min for explosion? CMcP neutrino detectors give pre-warning of explosion. 100 supernovas ea night. Milky Way, 1/century, we are overdue. CM-Betelguese astro seismology can be seen. Tenuous. JerryW said it gets hot.
39:27.239
Holst-Mars B-drama on Mars series, humans fighting, guest speaker, TT-Jan 6 Josh Garber, geology of exoplanets, CM-earth in context. TT-we need people to call 564-1290. B-this is a renaissance time, so many missions. Juno, Cassini, TT-ISS CM-MRO; B-live NASA. B-BruceM? BM-so many, pictures on wall of various Shuttle missions, over 100. Cal Sci Center. B-lost shuttles, Columbia, CM-predicted # of losses. B-Nat Geo series shows people in confinement, only 2 of 12 come out OK. B-Vandenberg has unmanned shuttle. Kelly brothers, talk in town, hard on body coming back to earth. BM-Lu talk. BM-astronauts over 6months, eyes get flat. BM-my telescope focus seems to match people even if they take glasses off. CM-accomodation. B-Saturn CM-close to sun, 29 yr orbit. B-farther planet from sun, the slower it goes. Jupiter spins once per 10 hours.
49:42.768
Holst-? CM-Star Cluster in 1950's, Joe Danley call w/ Q: full moon rainbow ring, what causes that? ice crystals? TT-22 degree ring, CM- Atoptics.uk webpage pictures of various effects. B-see circle if in a plane. TomW-ice crystals are hexangonal. B-solar eclipse next year? TomW-August 21, no telescope, just binoculars for trip. Annular eclipse vs. total. TomW-Sundogs prismatic refraction hexangonal on either side of Sun 60 degrees. B-spectrometer? RGYB. BM took pic of ring around moon.
56:12.586
Holst-Mercury B-AU society, will explain it if something seen; solar eclipse? TT-Oregon across US to Carolinas. TomW-east of Cascades. CMcP-Sheridan, Wyoming, just use eyeball. TomW-Venus is pretty right now. B-window to launch to Mars? two weeks, no gravitational assist needed. Juno & Cassini missions did use that. CM-RTG power, crash to Saturn in 2017. Voyagers, New Horizons, record attached, Hawking says not a good idea. BM-organ play, jan 14, CM-evening Star Party also.
62:32.613 end
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Outreach & Events / 161212 KZSB radio 1290AM 2nd Monday Tabby's star, planetarium, missions
« on: December 18, 2016, 04:11:19 PM »
161212 KZSB SBAU radio show December 12 2016 Baron JW TW CM TT BM; show mp3 attached 54 minutes w/ commercials, recorded on replay Sunday 3pm.
00:00.000 B-intros. Tabby's star discussed re: talk this evening. Star movement, Saturn's rings. Star Trek intro music.
10:12.000 commercial
12:11.000 B-intros. BruceM pipe organ. Telescopes and tracking, GoTo mounts, JW-voice activated mount control. Orion. SBAU planetarium show vs art work for constellations, naming southern constellations. TW-88 constellations. more planetarium discussion, only one in SB.
24:46.000 commercial
26:48.000 Holst Mercury TT-goes around at 100Kmph. B-is it tidally locked w/ sun? no, not like Moon. Pluto lock, resonance w/ Neptune. CM-get to see 60% of moon, JW-lunar libration, wobble. TW-up/down 5.2% so can see a little more on top at times. Mars, Neptune moons will eventually come into planet. B-fragments, JW-Roche limit. Shoemaker-levy comet into Jupiter broke up. B-why planets survive? CM-far enough away from Sun. JW-asteroid belt controlled by Jupiter. B-Juno mission ok? JW-results from 1st pass, showing band clouds are 300km deep. B-red spot?
36:03.000 commercial
38:04.000 Holst Jupiter. B-300yrs of red spot. Tabby star talk. Niburu false planet. JW-planet IX beyond Pluto may be real. BM-moon reflects 16% like asphalt. B-what else is going on out there, Missions? CYGNSS mission to launch soon, to see hurrican winds. Cassini mission to end 2017. Mars Rover mission. ESA to send a rover 2020, but recent test crashed. Russians responsible for landing part, but never have worked yet. B-Spirit, Opportunity? JW-one still works. Technology satellites for testing.
45:16.000 commercial
47:16.000 Holst Saturn, bringer of old age. B-club has food, want Devils eggs! TW-newsletters. color online. Speaker for January, exoplanet geology, ucsb. JW-information from light. B-white spot on Neptune? CM-black spot, comes/goes. TT-clouds on Neptune 1000mph. Westmont outreach coming up. Moon occults Aldebaran. CM-for science, need exact timing. B-outreaches have tiny little Saturn...JW-people love it. TT-winter solstice coming up. shortest light of the year. SciEng council meets.
53:58 end
00:00.000 B-intros. Tabby's star discussed re: talk this evening. Star movement, Saturn's rings. Star Trek intro music.
10:12.000 commercial
12:11.000 B-intros. BruceM pipe organ. Telescopes and tracking, GoTo mounts, JW-voice activated mount control. Orion. SBAU planetarium show vs art work for constellations, naming southern constellations. TW-88 constellations. more planetarium discussion, only one in SB.
24:46.000 commercial
26:48.000 Holst Mercury TT-goes around at 100Kmph. B-is it tidally locked w/ sun? no, not like Moon. Pluto lock, resonance w/ Neptune. CM-get to see 60% of moon, JW-lunar libration, wobble. TW-up/down 5.2% so can see a little more on top at times. Mars, Neptune moons will eventually come into planet. B-fragments, JW-Roche limit. Shoemaker-levy comet into Jupiter broke up. B-why planets survive? CM-far enough away from Sun. JW-asteroid belt controlled by Jupiter. B-Juno mission ok? JW-results from 1st pass, showing band clouds are 300km deep. B-red spot?
36:03.000 commercial
38:04.000 Holst Jupiter. B-300yrs of red spot. Tabby star talk. Niburu false planet. JW-planet IX beyond Pluto may be real. BM-moon reflects 16% like asphalt. B-what else is going on out there, Missions? CYGNSS mission to launch soon, to see hurrican winds. Cassini mission to end 2017. Mars Rover mission. ESA to send a rover 2020, but recent test crashed. Russians responsible for landing part, but never have worked yet. B-Spirit, Opportunity? JW-one still works. Technology satellites for testing.
45:16.000 commercial
47:16.000 Holst Saturn, bringer of old age. B-club has food, want Devils eggs! TW-newsletters. color online. Speaker for January, exoplanet geology, ucsb. JW-information from light. B-white spot on Neptune? CM-black spot, comes/goes. TT-clouds on Neptune 1000mph. Westmont outreach coming up. Moon occults Aldebaran. CM-for science, need exact timing. B-outreaches have tiny little Saturn...JW-people love it. TT-winter solstice coming up. shortest light of the year. SciEng council meets.
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Outreach & Events / 161128 KZSB 4th Mon SBAU radio JW,TW,TT,CM,BM James Webb etc
« on: December 04, 2016, 08:29:38 PM »
11-28-16 KZSB SBAU radio show 4th Monday of month, 830am-10am, cropped radio audio attached to this post, download and play with your audio player program:
00:00.000 Baron mentions AU coming in
00.11.228 song Soldier Boy, AU mention
01:47.963 ChuckMcP in, Big Bank Theory, meet Fri night, Black Hole talk see variations using small telescope.
02:52.191 Ben Hayes, Earth Sky, human blood, worlds oldest, ice man's. victim of oldest know crime. song. B-this shows topic? CM-James Webb.
05:02.374
05:08.341 JerryW Sudoku
05:39.120
05:53.646 TomW James Webb, CM-reaction wheels failing
08:41.047 B-read screen, Univ of Space, top 5 most well known galaxies. 2-toms 1 jerry 1 chuck + Bruce. T-slate of officers for approval; T-Jerry to do Eclipse talk. Bruce organ. JPL trips. Chuck-outreaches. BM-out last night, high altitude winds make for wiggly mess, clear, but not good seeing. B-Q? Air transparent, why bad seeing? CM- JW-refractive index of air varies with temperature variations and wind density changes. B-compensate for that? adaptive optics. SBIG used to make a tip tilt device for amateur telescopes. T-adaptive optics. TW-Westmont end of year.
20:14.442 "5 planetary bodies that can sustain life" B-we're on one, CM-if we do not mess it up. JW-presentation Eclipse CM black hole oscillation. B-Tt did good job as pres. TW-James Webb, up 2018, JW-mirror assembled. 18 segments, TW-opens like a flower. TW-7 times the collecting space, infrared. info from back in universe shifted to infrared. B-all photons the EM? JW-visible is 550nm, radio at 7m, infrared 5microns wavelength. TW-sits at Lagrange 2, 1M miles away, so it has to work. 5 lagrange sites. B-one in front of earth? T-Discovr mission. JW-Hubble will not be serviced anymore. BM-gryoscopes, reaction wheels. JW-also gives axis you can push against. B-not synchronous at 23K miles? JW-higher than ISS, hard to reach. James Webb to get away from Earth infrared heat BM-shielded from sun. B-infrared below red, also ultraviolet? JW-some animals can see into infrared: rattlesnake pits, and misquito TW-bumblebees see into UV. BM-yellow patio lights do not attract mosquitos, but bug trap lights do. B-infrared sees galaxies going away from us BM also visible like Hubble used. TW-6 shift. CM-space expansion for far away galaxies shifting into infrared. TW-may be looking at first stars created, Pop 3 stars, low metal. B-are we seeing stuff we are made of? CM-1st 10-36sec...
34:09.405 B-youtube video background. B-NY Times article on James Webb, 18 hex segments. JW-little positioners on each mirror. B-explosive bolts? BM-not good for debris. CM-testing positioning the first month. JW-a lot of risk management. B-housed in tube? CM-fits inside a bullet shaped shroud. B-Keri Bean talk on Dawn Mission to asteroids, big solar panel, how do they roll it up? CM-some roll, some fold. TW-James Webb has heat shields that fold out. B-is Hubble protected by earth mag field? JW-van allen belt. CM-sometimes pockets of mag field traps particles. JW-Jupiter has bigger magnetic field. BM-Cosmos 24 episodes, evolution occurs even bottom of ocean or thermal vents at Yellowstone. B-life could start there? CM-Europa water. B-needs sunlight? CM-no just energy and different. B-size CM-21ft across to fold up. B-18 flat mirrors? BM-sections of a curve. "thanks to this the Kepler space telescop, the most powerful planet hunter ever built"
43:48.320 "twin planets emerged" B-AU BruceM on line, BM-open console is this Saturday, anyone can play. B-requested Bach's contata. 9-11am. B-SBAU meeting? JW-iron gate to Museum, sign to Farrand hall. B-Westmont Obs? TW-ken Kilstrom chair of physics. Finals. TT-what are some of the Q's you will be asking? TW-absolute mag, properties of stars, optics, kids have been doing research on variable stars. TT-nova in sagittarius visible? CM-bunch of fun stuff out there. B-of billions of stars in Milky Way, only a supernova rarely. CM-Eta Carina maybe next. JW-Other galaxies have supernovas going off. CM-1604 was last in our galaxy. BM-M81 lasted 2 wks. B-Kepler supernova 1604. CM-some reflections maybe Tycho supernova remnant. B-diff btw super and hypernova CM-beam of radiation from Hypernova. B-our sun white? JW-it defines white. JW-used to refer to it as a yellow dwarf, but so many now just in the middle. TW-mean light is 504nm yellow green wavelength. TT-bigger than 88% of stars. B-red dwarfs have more goldilocks zones? CM-easier to find, but not always a good star to have a planet around. BM-Drake equation. B-all these conditions for life. Neil degrass tyson say no place on earth is as hostile as Mars. "as we have gazed upon the stars..."
54:41.749 end
00:00.000 Baron mentions AU coming in
00.11.228 song Soldier Boy, AU mention
01:47.963 ChuckMcP in, Big Bank Theory, meet Fri night, Black Hole talk see variations using small telescope.
02:52.191 Ben Hayes, Earth Sky, human blood, worlds oldest, ice man's. victim of oldest know crime. song. B-this shows topic? CM-James Webb.
05:02.374
05:08.341 JerryW Sudoku
05:39.120
05:53.646 TomW James Webb, CM-reaction wheels failing
08:41.047 B-read screen, Univ of Space, top 5 most well known galaxies. 2-toms 1 jerry 1 chuck + Bruce. T-slate of officers for approval; T-Jerry to do Eclipse talk. Bruce organ. JPL trips. Chuck-outreaches. BM-out last night, high altitude winds make for wiggly mess, clear, but not good seeing. B-Q? Air transparent, why bad seeing? CM- JW-refractive index of air varies with temperature variations and wind density changes. B-compensate for that? adaptive optics. SBIG used to make a tip tilt device for amateur telescopes. T-adaptive optics. TW-Westmont end of year.
20:14.442 "5 planetary bodies that can sustain life" B-we're on one, CM-if we do not mess it up. JW-presentation Eclipse CM black hole oscillation. B-Tt did good job as pres. TW-James Webb, up 2018, JW-mirror assembled. 18 segments, TW-opens like a flower. TW-7 times the collecting space, infrared. info from back in universe shifted to infrared. B-all photons the EM? JW-visible is 550nm, radio at 7m, infrared 5microns wavelength. TW-sits at Lagrange 2, 1M miles away, so it has to work. 5 lagrange sites. B-one in front of earth? T-Discovr mission. JW-Hubble will not be serviced anymore. BM-gryoscopes, reaction wheels. JW-also gives axis you can push against. B-not synchronous at 23K miles? JW-higher than ISS, hard to reach. James Webb to get away from Earth infrared heat BM-shielded from sun. B-infrared below red, also ultraviolet? JW-some animals can see into infrared: rattlesnake pits, and misquito TW-bumblebees see into UV. BM-yellow patio lights do not attract mosquitos, but bug trap lights do. B-infrared sees galaxies going away from us BM also visible like Hubble used. TW-6 shift. CM-space expansion for far away galaxies shifting into infrared. TW-may be looking at first stars created, Pop 3 stars, low metal. B-are we seeing stuff we are made of? CM-1st 10-36sec...
34:09.405 B-youtube video background. B-NY Times article on James Webb, 18 hex segments. JW-little positioners on each mirror. B-explosive bolts? BM-not good for debris. CM-testing positioning the first month. JW-a lot of risk management. B-housed in tube? CM-fits inside a bullet shaped shroud. B-Keri Bean talk on Dawn Mission to asteroids, big solar panel, how do they roll it up? CM-some roll, some fold. TW-James Webb has heat shields that fold out. B-is Hubble protected by earth mag field? JW-van allen belt. CM-sometimes pockets of mag field traps particles. JW-Jupiter has bigger magnetic field. BM-Cosmos 24 episodes, evolution occurs even bottom of ocean or thermal vents at Yellowstone. B-life could start there? CM-Europa water. B-needs sunlight? CM-no just energy and different. B-size CM-21ft across to fold up. B-18 flat mirrors? BM-sections of a curve. "thanks to this the Kepler space telescop, the most powerful planet hunter ever built"
43:48.320 "twin planets emerged" B-AU BruceM on line, BM-open console is this Saturday, anyone can play. B-requested Bach's contata. 9-11am. B-SBAU meeting? JW-iron gate to Museum, sign to Farrand hall. B-Westmont Obs? TW-ken Kilstrom chair of physics. Finals. TT-what are some of the Q's you will be asking? TW-absolute mag, properties of stars, optics, kids have been doing research on variable stars. TT-nova in sagittarius visible? CM-bunch of fun stuff out there. B-of billions of stars in Milky Way, only a supernova rarely. CM-Eta Carina maybe next. JW-Other galaxies have supernovas going off. CM-1604 was last in our galaxy. BM-M81 lasted 2 wks. B-Kepler supernova 1604. CM-some reflections maybe Tycho supernova remnant. B-diff btw super and hypernova CM-beam of radiation from Hypernova. B-our sun white? JW-it defines white. JW-used to refer to it as a yellow dwarf, but so many now just in the middle. TW-mean light is 504nm yellow green wavelength. TT-bigger than 88% of stars. B-red dwarfs have more goldilocks zones? CM-easier to find, but not always a good star to have a planet around. BM-Drake equation. B-all these conditions for life. Neil degrass tyson say no place on earth is as hostile as Mars. "as we have gazed upon the stars..."
54:41.749 end
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Outreach & Events / 161114 KZSB SBAU hour JW,TW,TT,CM,BM Holst music, supermoon, favorite stuff 57mn
« on: November 14, 2016, 02:53:00 PM »
161114 KZSB SBAU hour scrap Notes, see attachment to listen to program, cropped of commercials:
00:00.000 JerryW entering studio B-does big telescope help see Supermoon? Eta Carina Hypernova? watching Cosmos. Steelers lost to Cowboys. Son might say science stuff is not too bad TT-science of football. B- lots of stuff in space, sun mission going within 4M miles. B-carbon foam? titanium. JW-SR-71 used that. Blastoff of rocket? JW-heard it from backyard.
03:26.207 Earth Sky wound cells flocking
04:56.618 Chuck entering Denise in Germany worried about election, science will be in trouble w Trump B-he is a puppy dog, lots of space missions going on.
05:58.273
07:04.001 rocket
07:16.922 weather
07:39.253
07:49.365 supermoon, BruceM on phone
13:16.460 1. Holst Mars music B-space the final frontier, Venus next, TT-enuf fuel to get to both. B-Mars program Nat Geo Tv tonight. BM-not using Cox mini boxes, no commercials on Netflix B-no news, BM-lots of docs. TT-Westmont this friday, JW-solar observing Thursday? CM-daytime event. BM-I did not realize solar event. TT-did not want to mention to public. Wed AOTSB by Las Cumbres Obs, like science pub, no charge, bad acoustics. B-filter in front of telescope, JW reflects the light, BM-has to be optically correct. Griffith has Coelostat solar scope http://www.griffithobservatory.org/exhibits/telescopes.html sometimes not aluminized, but Griffith probably is. Risk of damage to eyes and telescope due to heat. TW-eyepiece CM-if opaque. B-Camino Real outreach? CM-next year 1st Tuesday. B-filters, buy? 1/100,000 of light gets thru, 10^-5, BM-bader filter, glass is best. TW-when I was a kid, the filters would break inside and kids eyes could be damaged. JW-they were like welder's glass. TT-JW you can talk about scopes, pinhole style. CM-tinfoil gives clean edge. TW-cardboard box on shoulders, light from behind you. B-sunspots visible? CM-not very many at the moment. B-you teach kids at Carp St beach? CM-PTA organized. B-you had two outings same night? Pat could do it? TT-Pat is smart, makes CM do all the work.
24:21.885 2. B-believe it or not there is music here (Holst Venus), how to do another phone call, press buttons twice? B-how do you guys rank all the things going on, what is most important to you? JW-ESA trying to figure out Schaperelli Mars landing problem. B-space agencies cooperate? JW-JPL makes a lot of space vehicles. B-Jupiter got hit by comet, but had to wait for spots, would there be an explosion? CM-yes. B-ESA Mars mission why problem? CM-software glitch. JW-parachute let go too soon BM-to err is human, to really screw up it takes a computer. B-large parachute? JW-largest yet. Russian launch. CM-they have launched from Australia. JW-Depends so can launch over water to avoid population. B-anyone see launch on Friday? JW-heard it, BM-saw it, but only steam from rocket, so it dissipates quickly. _____ JW-Keri Bean JPL talk on Dawn Mission was very good talk. B-JPL on Caltech campus? JW-no. B-occultations if own a telescope? CM-all kinds of citizen science you can do. JW-get credit. CM-report to Intern Occult Timing Assoc. Usually the picket fence person that did not see anything. TT-how big a path on earth? CM-30 to 60Km. B-see star diameters? Tom use Youtube to see comparison of star sizes? TT-see this in planetarium. B-shows at Museum? CM-do every other Sun, TT-do school shows during week. [Alice projector, now Digistar]
36:26.999 3. Holst music Jupiter B-saw planet radio waves and turned them into audible sound, JW-they have done that for the whole universe, colors and sound. CM-shift frequencies. JW-Hartle did LIGO gravitational waves into sound. BM-LIGO is about 100Hz. B-only 2 black holes do this? BM-measuring a fraction of a proton. JW-interferometer CM-WA, LA locations. B-how do they know it is 2 black holes? JW-they model what to expect. BM-huge energy, 40M suns. CM-like on edge of pond seeing waves of pebble tossed in from other side. B-waves from hypernova? CM-light and radiant energy. BM-coupling between gravity and ordinary matter is 10^-43 . B-speed of light? JW-yes, space-time oscillates, like waving hand in room. DARPA request for proposal SBIR, for grav wave radio. CM-thinking ahead. JW-grav wave go thru everything. B-neutrinos go thru everything, from Big Bang. CM-proof sun is thermonuclear.
44:17.628 4. Holst music Saturn. B-2nd, 4th Mon of month. Amazing, how to keep up on this? What excites you? TT-Cassini mission around Saturn. Cassini, scientist. Titan probe. TW-teaching at Westmont about size of space, sense of scale, Alberio is 430LY away, 34.3 arc-sec apart, so 4500AU. Saying 26 days to have light go between the binary stars, the Cub Scout stars. light around earth 7x in sec. Ask students to close eyes and clap hands 3 sec apart to show light time to go to moon and back. B-Juno mission, probe to Sun, camera btw Earth Sun looking at Earth (discovery mission). JW-correction: Blue Yellow star name is UCLA star.
50:31.210 5. Holst music Uranus B-BM,JW,CM,TW,TT Westmont 30yr tradition. B-what is TT going to bring for SBAU food? TT-Milky Way bar, Mars bar. CM-just get others to bring food. JW-James Webb telescope? Infrared, far from earth, B-look thru dust? see BH? JW-my career was involved with instruments for space missions. Had one launch from Vandenberg, but shroud did not eject, so it sleeps with fishes. I like to image with telescope, but marine layer. CM-Kepler spacecraft, took 30yrs to get launched for exoplanet detection. Determined planets are very common. TT-not able to do from earth? CM-too much atmospheric interference. B-Bruce? BM-LIGO system for grav wave detection. 2 arms 90 deg apart, 1.4Km long, laser beam 280 times bounce, 239mile optical path for detecting small movements from grav wave. shed to protect from sun. mirror suspension to avoid noise. B- JW-will talk about solar eclipse 8-21, first across US since Carly Simon sang "you're so vain". Moon pass in front of sun, get dark, chickens lay eggs, cows will go home.
57:52.064 end
00:00.000 JerryW entering studio B-does big telescope help see Supermoon? Eta Carina Hypernova? watching Cosmos. Steelers lost to Cowboys. Son might say science stuff is not too bad TT-science of football. B- lots of stuff in space, sun mission going within 4M miles. B-carbon foam? titanium. JW-SR-71 used that. Blastoff of rocket? JW-heard it from backyard.
03:26.207 Earth Sky wound cells flocking
04:56.618 Chuck entering Denise in Germany worried about election, science will be in trouble w Trump B-he is a puppy dog, lots of space missions going on.
05:58.273
07:04.001 rocket
07:16.922 weather
07:39.253
07:49.365 supermoon, BruceM on phone
13:16.460 1. Holst Mars music B-space the final frontier, Venus next, TT-enuf fuel to get to both. B-Mars program Nat Geo Tv tonight. BM-not using Cox mini boxes, no commercials on Netflix B-no news, BM-lots of docs. TT-Westmont this friday, JW-solar observing Thursday? CM-daytime event. BM-I did not realize solar event. TT-did not want to mention to public. Wed AOTSB by Las Cumbres Obs, like science pub, no charge, bad acoustics. B-filter in front of telescope, JW reflects the light, BM-has to be optically correct. Griffith has Coelostat solar scope http://www.griffithobservatory.org/exhibits/telescopes.html sometimes not aluminized, but Griffith probably is. Risk of damage to eyes and telescope due to heat. TW-eyepiece CM-if opaque. B-Camino Real outreach? CM-next year 1st Tuesday. B-filters, buy? 1/100,000 of light gets thru, 10^-5, BM-bader filter, glass is best. TW-when I was a kid, the filters would break inside and kids eyes could be damaged. JW-they were like welder's glass. TT-JW you can talk about scopes, pinhole style. CM-tinfoil gives clean edge. TW-cardboard box on shoulders, light from behind you. B-sunspots visible? CM-not very many at the moment. B-you teach kids at Carp St beach? CM-PTA organized. B-you had two outings same night? Pat could do it? TT-Pat is smart, makes CM do all the work.
24:21.885 2. B-believe it or not there is music here (Holst Venus), how to do another phone call, press buttons twice? B-how do you guys rank all the things going on, what is most important to you? JW-ESA trying to figure out Schaperelli Mars landing problem. B-space agencies cooperate? JW-JPL makes a lot of space vehicles. B-Jupiter got hit by comet, but had to wait for spots, would there be an explosion? CM-yes. B-ESA Mars mission why problem? CM-software glitch. JW-parachute let go too soon BM-to err is human, to really screw up it takes a computer. B-large parachute? JW-largest yet. Russian launch. CM-they have launched from Australia. JW-Depends so can launch over water to avoid population. B-anyone see launch on Friday? JW-heard it, BM-saw it, but only steam from rocket, so it dissipates quickly. _____ JW-Keri Bean JPL talk on Dawn Mission was very good talk. B-JPL on Caltech campus? JW-no. B-occultations if own a telescope? CM-all kinds of citizen science you can do. JW-get credit. CM-report to Intern Occult Timing Assoc. Usually the picket fence person that did not see anything. TT-how big a path on earth? CM-30 to 60Km. B-see star diameters? Tom use Youtube to see comparison of star sizes? TT-see this in planetarium. B-shows at Museum? CM-do every other Sun, TT-do school shows during week. [Alice projector, now Digistar]
36:26.999 3. Holst music Jupiter B-saw planet radio waves and turned them into audible sound, JW-they have done that for the whole universe, colors and sound. CM-shift frequencies. JW-Hartle did LIGO gravitational waves into sound. BM-LIGO is about 100Hz. B-only 2 black holes do this? BM-measuring a fraction of a proton. JW-interferometer CM-WA, LA locations. B-how do they know it is 2 black holes? JW-they model what to expect. BM-huge energy, 40M suns. CM-like on edge of pond seeing waves of pebble tossed in from other side. B-waves from hypernova? CM-light and radiant energy. BM-coupling between gravity and ordinary matter is 10^-43 . B-speed of light? JW-yes, space-time oscillates, like waving hand in room. DARPA request for proposal SBIR, for grav wave radio. CM-thinking ahead. JW-grav wave go thru everything. B-neutrinos go thru everything, from Big Bang. CM-proof sun is thermonuclear.
44:17.628 4. Holst music Saturn. B-2nd, 4th Mon of month. Amazing, how to keep up on this? What excites you? TT-Cassini mission around Saturn. Cassini, scientist. Titan probe. TW-teaching at Westmont about size of space, sense of scale, Alberio is 430LY away, 34.3 arc-sec apart, so 4500AU. Saying 26 days to have light go between the binary stars, the Cub Scout stars. light around earth 7x in sec. Ask students to close eyes and clap hands 3 sec apart to show light time to go to moon and back. B-Juno mission, probe to Sun, camera btw Earth Sun looking at Earth (discovery mission). JW-correction: Blue Yellow star name is UCLA star.
50:31.210 5. Holst music Uranus B-BM,JW,CM,TW,TT Westmont 30yr tradition. B-what is TT going to bring for SBAU food? TT-Milky Way bar, Mars bar. CM-just get others to bring food. JW-James Webb telescope? Infrared, far from earth, B-look thru dust? see BH? JW-my career was involved with instruments for space missions. Had one launch from Vandenberg, but shroud did not eject, so it sleeps with fishes. I like to image with telescope, but marine layer. CM-Kepler spacecraft, took 30yrs to get launched for exoplanet detection. Determined planets are very common. TT-not able to do from earth? CM-too much atmospheric interference. B-Bruce? BM-LIGO system for grav wave detection. 2 arms 90 deg apart, 1.4Km long, laser beam 280 times bounce, 239mile optical path for detecting small movements from grav wave. shed to protect from sun. mirror suspension to avoid noise. B- JW-will talk about solar eclipse 8-21, first across US since Carly Simon sang "you're so vain". Moon pass in front of sun, get dark, chickens lay eggs, cows will go home.
57:52.064 end
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Outreach & Events / 161024 4th Mon KZSB TomW, ChuckMcP, JerryW w the Baron, many topics, weird songs
« on: October 26, 2016, 09:43:13 PM »
161024 KZSB SBAU hour+ notes ~8:40am start. Download attached file to play back show w/o commercials!
00:00.000 Earth-Sky: New Horizons approaching Pluto 2015, new moons, >30K mph, collision w/ pebble could destroy it. Just 10 days before reaching planet may change path. B-You two guys can talk while I talk to Donny.
01:37.239 B-what is on the agenda? JerryW-1951, I was 7 yrs old, the Hit Parade was on. [KZSB blurb]
02:58.436 AU hour coming up after 9am:
03:12.490 1. Galileo song 1609 telescope. B-what drugs are you on McP? B-Jerry you suggested? Big Bang Theory, by Bare Naked Ladies. B-JW was guest at "Judge for Yourself" Friday. B-everything is happening in space. used to be months between events. Now missions to Mars, Pluto, Jupiter. JW-Saturn Cassini. CM-will kick bucket, crash it into Saturn to protect. [TW arrives] B-Q: are rings of Saturn like Star Wars scenes? CM-pretty dense, smoke particles to mobile homes. B-shepard moons. B-TomW what is diff btw General & Special Relativity. TW-Special Relativity involves inertial frames, constant velocity frames; general involves accelerated frames. B-TomT out due to cold. SBAU members 180. Farrand holds? 80. Planetarium 45. TW-used to have seats in a circle CM-Spitz projector. B-seems like half the audience would see things upside down? CM-special effects can only be shown on one side, so that is why the seats are facing one side. B-used to put a grid on the sky? CM-that can still show coord systems. B-what is next? CM-SBAU campout this weekend will help generate rain, Saturday potluck. B-TomW bringing bread? TW-no, but camp alot, grew up camping learn history around pennsylvania. B-how is the seeing at Cachuma? CM-dark skies. B-how late staying up? CM-Doing six occultations during the night. B-asteroid belt has big? CM-Ceres, 1/3 mass of entire asteroid belt. B-gas come together to make planets? JW-still a research topic, how to get things to stick together to make asteroids. B-Juno slow for Jupiter, do they know rocks in advance? CM-usually in sleep mode for most of the trip. B-want to ask about Juno and ExoMars, Chaperilli crash. 564-1290 song: Faith of the Heart, Star Trek Enterprise TV show theme song.
14:51.898 2. Gato Baberari song: Earth cry, Heaven smile. B-talking with friends from SBAU, TW, JW, CM, just a software weiny, computer nerd. B-many competing space agencies. Nasa almost out of it? CM-Insight mission to Mars. JW-we buy Russian rockets. B-Mars ownership? JW-they have agreement not to. CM-They coordinate missions to not overlap. B-usually land on flat areas, not Olympus Mons? CM-not that steep. JW-if there is something interesting, they will find a way to get there. B-could land in a flat crater and be surrounded by mountains? B-Europeans taking off from Guyana? B-Russia seems in charge of everything now. Shuttle mission was for 20 years? CM-terminated due to cost JW-and higher risk, not a quick reusable rocket. JW-China making hypersonic plane to use runway takeoff. B-Shuttle fuel? JW-inside just for retro rockets. [ https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070522153505AA1LBdi ] CM-fuel tanks were considered for space station. B-moneyed people Musk, Bezos, making reuseable rockets. JW-Russian millionaire, Yuri Milner, launching little satellites w solar sail. Phil Lubin, prof UCSB. Nanosats, push w/ laser light (directed energy). B-photon JW-wave/particle duality. B-photon in star takes? CM-100K-300K years. TomW-random walk out, higher energy to lower, gamma ray to visible. TW-16M Kelvin, in innner 30% of sun core. TW-only outer 100km is seen of Sun rest is opaque. B-what is Sun making? H-He? TW-30% of radius is core. TW-chemistry vs plasma states. B-He to Li? JW-Carbon B-why Samsung phones getting hot? Lithium?
song: "Black Hole...sucks to have gravity"
27:36.605 3. song: "fragile ship begins to stretch out thin, without a word was a little closer to a black hole". Adrian taking over VP from Secretary. Peter Olmos call in, Trekkie from way back, can not help but stare out into space, phenominal show, B you are very knowledgeable. Q-Are there any recent discoveries up in space, is there a light shining up in space, 50x brighter than galaxy? 10mi across? CM-Quasar, PO-Q: BH emits GW? PO-what are new discoveries? CM-exoplanets 4000, B-4 day orbit, CM-hot jupiter. B-set off frenzy. CM-then planet found around a pulsar, neutron star. size of a city. B-something that bright? JW-Supernovas and also a HyperNova. JW-Speaker for 1st friday, Nov 4 meeting will talk about Dawn Mission. Salt on Ceres reflects light, ice mountain. Keri Bean of JPL. Another terrible song: "once i had enough mass, i became a star of gas"
35:04.612 4. song: B-get well TomT and BruceM. B-CM you are a wizard. Meet at Westmont 3rd Friday. B-how long to do Rock from Space talk? CM-took a few years and now it is fixed. 5# rock. B-Omer Blaes, Novae. so many things, dark matter, energy. cannot explain. wish it would not have happened. B-what were we covering? JW-diff space programs, Japan launches south island. B-Chinese, Russians CM-ESA, both Guyana (heavy payloads) and Russia JW-also launch from platforms from ocean. Musk landing on ocean platform. CM-like wind in atmosphere. B-trip to Proxima Centauri? JW-next few years. JW-also India is another space program. Launch sites set to minimize energy to space and not go over population center. B-can't get together? JW-International Space Station. B-what is priority of these? Juno? JW-Problems: camera and safe mode, valve problems. preprogrammed diagnositics will take place. Juno till 2018. B-Cassini into Saturn recording? CM-collecting data as it goes in. B-strange north pole clouds on Saturn. B-strange shapes on comet, Philea mission? JW-lots of volatiles on comet. B-more water on outer solar system objects? CM-Ceres, Europa. song: Gato
43:47.145 5. song: "it was a calm and cloudless night...summmertime 1609, when Galileo used his telescope for the very first time" B-our own version of the Big Bang Theory show. TomW from Westmont, JerryW SBRS VP, ChuckMcP-outreach coord. B-200x/yr must get tired? CM-has not happened yet. JW-i have way too many telescopes, according to my wife. Tues evening workshop. B-what is coming up? CM-Nov 4 meeting, Camino Tele Tues Nov 8, 2nd Sat Nov 12 Star party, 3rd Fri Nov 18 Westmont; bacara nov 26. SBAU.org show up at any of the outreaches, no telescope needed. B-Cachuma busy? CM-yes even w/o water. several campers. B-camp? telescope cover? fire allowed? Cm-technically ok. TW-Stevens park no open fires anymore. B-see you 2nd Mon in Nov. next meeting: Keri Bean of Dawn Mission, JPL. song: faith of the heart song playing over the news!
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00:00.000 Earth-Sky: New Horizons approaching Pluto 2015, new moons, >30K mph, collision w/ pebble could destroy it. Just 10 days before reaching planet may change path. B-You two guys can talk while I talk to Donny.
01:37.239 B-what is on the agenda? JerryW-1951, I was 7 yrs old, the Hit Parade was on. [KZSB blurb]
02:58.436 AU hour coming up after 9am:
03:12.490 1. Galileo song 1609 telescope. B-what drugs are you on McP? B-Jerry you suggested? Big Bang Theory, by Bare Naked Ladies. B-JW was guest at "Judge for Yourself" Friday. B-everything is happening in space. used to be months between events. Now missions to Mars, Pluto, Jupiter. JW-Saturn Cassini. CM-will kick bucket, crash it into Saturn to protect. [TW arrives] B-Q: are rings of Saturn like Star Wars scenes? CM-pretty dense, smoke particles to mobile homes. B-shepard moons. B-TomW what is diff btw General & Special Relativity. TW-Special Relativity involves inertial frames, constant velocity frames; general involves accelerated frames. B-TomT out due to cold. SBAU members 180. Farrand holds? 80. Planetarium 45. TW-used to have seats in a circle CM-Spitz projector. B-seems like half the audience would see things upside down? CM-special effects can only be shown on one side, so that is why the seats are facing one side. B-used to put a grid on the sky? CM-that can still show coord systems. B-what is next? CM-SBAU campout this weekend will help generate rain, Saturday potluck. B-TomW bringing bread? TW-no, but camp alot, grew up camping learn history around pennsylvania. B-how is the seeing at Cachuma? CM-dark skies. B-how late staying up? CM-Doing six occultations during the night. B-asteroid belt has big? CM-Ceres, 1/3 mass of entire asteroid belt. B-gas come together to make planets? JW-still a research topic, how to get things to stick together to make asteroids. B-Juno slow for Jupiter, do they know rocks in advance? CM-usually in sleep mode for most of the trip. B-want to ask about Juno and ExoMars, Chaperilli crash. 564-1290 song: Faith of the Heart, Star Trek Enterprise TV show theme song.
14:51.898 2. Gato Baberari song: Earth cry, Heaven smile. B-talking with friends from SBAU, TW, JW, CM, just a software weiny, computer nerd. B-many competing space agencies. Nasa almost out of it? CM-Insight mission to Mars. JW-we buy Russian rockets. B-Mars ownership? JW-they have agreement not to. CM-They coordinate missions to not overlap. B-usually land on flat areas, not Olympus Mons? CM-not that steep. JW-if there is something interesting, they will find a way to get there. B-could land in a flat crater and be surrounded by mountains? B-Europeans taking off from Guyana? B-Russia seems in charge of everything now. Shuttle mission was for 20 years? CM-terminated due to cost JW-and higher risk, not a quick reusable rocket. JW-China making hypersonic plane to use runway takeoff. B-Shuttle fuel? JW-inside just for retro rockets. [ https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070522153505AA1LBdi ] CM-fuel tanks were considered for space station. B-moneyed people Musk, Bezos, making reuseable rockets. JW-Russian millionaire, Yuri Milner, launching little satellites w solar sail. Phil Lubin, prof UCSB. Nanosats, push w/ laser light (directed energy). B-photon JW-wave/particle duality. B-photon in star takes? CM-100K-300K years. TomW-random walk out, higher energy to lower, gamma ray to visible. TW-16M Kelvin, in innner 30% of sun core. TW-only outer 100km is seen of Sun rest is opaque. B-what is Sun making? H-He? TW-30% of radius is core. TW-chemistry vs plasma states. B-He to Li? JW-Carbon B-why Samsung phones getting hot? Lithium?
song: "Black Hole...sucks to have gravity"
27:36.605 3. song: "fragile ship begins to stretch out thin, without a word was a little closer to a black hole". Adrian taking over VP from Secretary. Peter Olmos call in, Trekkie from way back, can not help but stare out into space, phenominal show, B you are very knowledgeable. Q-Are there any recent discoveries up in space, is there a light shining up in space, 50x brighter than galaxy? 10mi across? CM-Quasar, PO-Q: BH emits GW? PO-what are new discoveries? CM-exoplanets 4000, B-4 day orbit, CM-hot jupiter. B-set off frenzy. CM-then planet found around a pulsar, neutron star. size of a city. B-something that bright? JW-Supernovas and also a HyperNova. JW-Speaker for 1st friday, Nov 4 meeting will talk about Dawn Mission. Salt on Ceres reflects light, ice mountain. Keri Bean of JPL. Another terrible song: "once i had enough mass, i became a star of gas"
35:04.612 4. song: B-get well TomT and BruceM. B-CM you are a wizard. Meet at Westmont 3rd Friday. B-how long to do Rock from Space talk? CM-took a few years and now it is fixed. 5# rock. B-Omer Blaes, Novae. so many things, dark matter, energy. cannot explain. wish it would not have happened. B-what were we covering? JW-diff space programs, Japan launches south island. B-Chinese, Russians CM-ESA, both Guyana (heavy payloads) and Russia JW-also launch from platforms from ocean. Musk landing on ocean platform. CM-like wind in atmosphere. B-trip to Proxima Centauri? JW-next few years. JW-also India is another space program. Launch sites set to minimize energy to space and not go over population center. B-can't get together? JW-International Space Station. B-what is priority of these? Juno? JW-Problems: camera and safe mode, valve problems. preprogrammed diagnositics will take place. Juno till 2018. B-Cassini into Saturn recording? CM-collecting data as it goes in. B-strange north pole clouds on Saturn. B-strange shapes on comet, Philea mission? JW-lots of volatiles on comet. B-more water on outer solar system objects? CM-Ceres, Europa. song: Gato
43:47.145 5. song: "it was a calm and cloudless night...summmertime 1609, when Galileo used his telescope for the very first time" B-our own version of the Big Bang Theory show. TomW from Westmont, JerryW SBRS VP, ChuckMcP-outreach coord. B-200x/yr must get tired? CM-has not happened yet. JW-i have way too many telescopes, according to my wife. Tues evening workshop. B-what is coming up? CM-Nov 4 meeting, Camino Tele Tues Nov 8, 2nd Sat Nov 12 Star party, 3rd Fri Nov 18 Westmont; bacara nov 26. SBAU.org show up at any of the outreaches, no telescope needed. B-Cachuma busy? CM-yes even w/o water. several campers. B-camp? telescope cover? fire allowed? Cm-technically ok. TW-Stevens park no open fires anymore. B-see you 2nd Mon in Nov. next meeting: Keri Bean of Dawn Mission, JPL. song: faith of the heart song playing over the news!
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Outreach & Events / 161010 KZSB 2nd Mon SBAU radio show JW, TW, CM, TT, and Baron Novas, etc
« on: October 10, 2016, 04:14:24 PM »
161010 KZSB SBAU radio show quick notes...see attached file to play back cropped show
00:00.000 B-"brains are arriving" JerryW in
00:20.821 Vandenberg fire, TT-reminds me of my smoking days
00:30.392 Traffic, bicycles, AU guys here, Tony agog at AU meeting Prof Blaes
02:04.086 B-Prof UCSB come on show? JW-they are busy, ideas at 4am; ChuckMcP did good.
03:02.184 B-Stephen Hawking Santa Barbara?
04:36.843 stand by
04:50.864 Omer Blaes, novas
06:04.367 1. B-intros, AU vs. Local Group, Andromeda galaxy approaching, TT-Vera Rubin, dark matter, JW-our solar system may be thrown out of new galaxy; our Sun 1 Billion years will be red drawf; Prof Blaes talk on pulsating novas, accretion disk heats up; Sun gas vs. plasma? B-Q to Blaes, how we get higher elements, TW-some data was given by a kid in AVS, American Variable Star group, TomW had to check if he had data from his past as well on SS Cygni; some data from 1880, cycle of 120 days, CM-V404 Cygni black hole flickering
18:11.254 2. Beatles, Across the Universe, star classification, dimming tracking, light curves; CM-I do short blibs of asteroids occulting stars; TT-Prof. Blaes said our Sun varies? TW-5 minutes; CM-solar cycle, sunspots lower temperature. B-blasts? CM-CME's B-cycle CM-22 years magnetic B-star sizes? CM-Sun in middle B-blow up? ours? TW-above 1.4 solar masses get novas. CM-above 8-12 neutron star, above 12 solar mass, get black hole. TT-why did not SS Cygni go to 1.4 solar mass and go Type 1A supernova? JW-temp reaches fusion before 1.4 and cools again. CM-Globular Clusters have blue stragglers, B-how close are stars in GC's? CM-light days apart. B-proof of stars going around each other? CM-Yes multiple star systems, JW-stars can separate in telescopes over time. CM-Herschel measured B-Alpha Centauri? CM-three stars, Proxima orbits other two. B-never collide? B-send nano satellites? TW-61 Cygni, Piazzi's flying star, discovered early 1800's, CM-see it move against background stars. B-stars occult? CM-Algol, eye of Medusa, eclipsing binary, fast orbit. JW-dust disks w binary star change greatly. B-have we found a rogue planet? CM-brown drawfs. Fuzzy definition, about 13 Jupiter size, has heat, but not fusion anymore. JW-Jupiter does have heat. B-2010 movie? JW-obilisks added mass to turn on as a star. Arthur C Clarke
28:43.103 3. B-5 members here, sometimes BruceM, see all 180 members? CM-some members far away. B-contest on music? T-just use YouTube and Astronomy. Saturday? T-plan meet and Star Party. B-Tony impressed with planetarium show. T-Telescope Tuesday, Westmont Saturday, T-Oct 16 talk by LCO, Robert Krishner, Dark Energy. CM-great speaker, Jay Leno like, in 1998 he spoke to SBAU and hinted at Dark Energy findings. CM-DE space expands, but has same pressure. JW-property of space. B-vs. Regular energy/matter? JW-unfortunate naming, just see effects. B-Dark matter has mass, Dark energy spreading us? JW-if no Dark Energy, universe would collapse CM-gnabgib = Big Bang backwards. B-Omer Blaes will come up with theory CM-unified theory JW-theory of everything. B-preists should get into this...CM-they do not deal in facts. JW-for good discussions you need beer.
36:36.277 4. AU hour, dinner for members coming up, TT-campout for members coming up end of October. JW-CalStar, 80 campsites and telescopes, near Lake San Antonio. JW-taking pictures thru scope, but M33 galaxy naked eye visible. CM-naked eye limited magnitude. B-Prof Blaes, supernova more light than whole galaxy? CM-three weeks. B-nebulas? JW-star guts. B-elements? JW-supernova, 118 elements TW-ferris wheel is iron. CM-higher elements made at supernova iron taking more neutrons. B-layers in stars? CM-Sun has one layer. JW-higher elements made, then degrade to lighter elements. B-Lithium?
TW-3rd, B-4, Be-5 JW-satellites made from Beryllium, toxic when machined to BeO, gets in lungs. B-Radon? JW-is radioactive and bad for lungs. B-Blaes electrons throw out x-rays? 0-186,000mi/sec in no time. JW-"when they stop on a dime, the dime gets real hot" TW-x-rays assoc w/ inner shell electrons. B-electrons neg? JW-photons neutral. B-Lysol alpha blobs?
45:44.171 5. B-SBAU.org website for more info. B-Google Astronomy, Europa skipping...TT-darn, want to see if fish are there, B-water shooting off Europa, "colder than polar bear snot", B-deep ocean? CM-20km ice, then water, then core. B-why water blast off? CM-temp/psi. B-how to land on ice? T-very carefully. JW-JIMO program was going to Europa w/ nuke reactor to melt thru ice and trail wire behind to send signal. Then Prometheus mission, Now Juno mission. CM-pathogens survived
B-how to join AU? TT-sbau.org. Maker's Faire at Marymount school coming up. B-I'm the only signal one here, TT-but also cats.
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00:00.000 B-"brains are arriving" JerryW in
00:20.821 Vandenberg fire, TT-reminds me of my smoking days
00:30.392 Traffic, bicycles, AU guys here, Tony agog at AU meeting Prof Blaes
02:04.086 B-Prof UCSB come on show? JW-they are busy, ideas at 4am; ChuckMcP did good.
03:02.184 B-Stephen Hawking Santa Barbara?
04:36.843 stand by
04:50.864 Omer Blaes, novas
06:04.367 1. B-intros, AU vs. Local Group, Andromeda galaxy approaching, TT-Vera Rubin, dark matter, JW-our solar system may be thrown out of new galaxy; our Sun 1 Billion years will be red drawf; Prof Blaes talk on pulsating novas, accretion disk heats up; Sun gas vs. plasma? B-Q to Blaes, how we get higher elements, TW-some data was given by a kid in AVS, American Variable Star group, TomW had to check if he had data from his past as well on SS Cygni; some data from 1880, cycle of 120 days, CM-V404 Cygni black hole flickering
18:11.254 2. Beatles, Across the Universe, star classification, dimming tracking, light curves; CM-I do short blibs of asteroids occulting stars; TT-Prof. Blaes said our Sun varies? TW-5 minutes; CM-solar cycle, sunspots lower temperature. B-blasts? CM-CME's B-cycle CM-22 years magnetic B-star sizes? CM-Sun in middle B-blow up? ours? TW-above 1.4 solar masses get novas. CM-above 8-12 neutron star, above 12 solar mass, get black hole. TT-why did not SS Cygni go to 1.4 solar mass and go Type 1A supernova? JW-temp reaches fusion before 1.4 and cools again. CM-Globular Clusters have blue stragglers, B-how close are stars in GC's? CM-light days apart. B-proof of stars going around each other? CM-Yes multiple star systems, JW-stars can separate in telescopes over time. CM-Herschel measured B-Alpha Centauri? CM-three stars, Proxima orbits other two. B-never collide? B-send nano satellites? TW-61 Cygni, Piazzi's flying star, discovered early 1800's, CM-see it move against background stars. B-stars occult? CM-Algol, eye of Medusa, eclipsing binary, fast orbit. JW-dust disks w binary star change greatly. B-have we found a rogue planet? CM-brown drawfs. Fuzzy definition, about 13 Jupiter size, has heat, but not fusion anymore. JW-Jupiter does have heat. B-2010 movie? JW-obilisks added mass to turn on as a star. Arthur C Clarke
28:43.103 3. B-5 members here, sometimes BruceM, see all 180 members? CM-some members far away. B-contest on music? T-just use YouTube and Astronomy. Saturday? T-plan meet and Star Party. B-Tony impressed with planetarium show. T-Telescope Tuesday, Westmont Saturday, T-Oct 16 talk by LCO, Robert Krishner, Dark Energy. CM-great speaker, Jay Leno like, in 1998 he spoke to SBAU and hinted at Dark Energy findings. CM-DE space expands, but has same pressure. JW-property of space. B-vs. Regular energy/matter? JW-unfortunate naming, just see effects. B-Dark matter has mass, Dark energy spreading us? JW-if no Dark Energy, universe would collapse CM-gnabgib = Big Bang backwards. B-Omer Blaes will come up with theory CM-unified theory JW-theory of everything. B-preists should get into this...CM-they do not deal in facts. JW-for good discussions you need beer.
36:36.277 4. AU hour, dinner for members coming up, TT-campout for members coming up end of October. JW-CalStar, 80 campsites and telescopes, near Lake San Antonio. JW-taking pictures thru scope, but M33 galaxy naked eye visible. CM-naked eye limited magnitude. B-Prof Blaes, supernova more light than whole galaxy? CM-three weeks. B-nebulas? JW-star guts. B-elements? JW-supernova, 118 elements TW-ferris wheel is iron. CM-higher elements made at supernova iron taking more neutrons. B-layers in stars? CM-Sun has one layer. JW-higher elements made, then degrade to lighter elements. B-Lithium?
TW-3rd, B-4, Be-5 JW-satellites made from Beryllium, toxic when machined to BeO, gets in lungs. B-Radon? JW-is radioactive and bad for lungs. B-Blaes electrons throw out x-rays? 0-186,000mi/sec in no time. JW-"when they stop on a dime, the dime gets real hot" TW-x-rays assoc w/ inner shell electrons. B-electrons neg? JW-photons neutral. B-Lysol alpha blobs?
45:44.171 5. B-SBAU.org website for more info. B-Google Astronomy, Europa skipping...TT-darn, want to see if fish are there, B-water shooting off Europa, "colder than polar bear snot", B-deep ocean? CM-20km ice, then water, then core. B-why water blast off? CM-temp/psi. B-how to land on ice? T-very carefully. JW-JIMO program was going to Europa w/ nuke reactor to melt thru ice and trail wire behind to send signal. Then Prometheus mission, Now Juno mission. CM-pathogens survived
B-how to join AU? TT-sbau.org. Maker's Faire at Marymount school coming up. B-I'm the only signal one here, TT-but also cats.
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Outreach & Events / 160912 KZSB 2nd Monday TimC Hale telescope etc. CM, TW, TT, BM
« on: October 01, 2016, 08:41:19 PM »
see attached audio file for cropped playback of show (incl a little pre-show talk)
160912 KZSB SBAU radio show notes (9am actual show start 11:18.377)
00:00.000 Baron talks w TomT; tells story of nice lady from Ventura in planetarium that he did not get a chance to talk to.
04:52.377 Earth Sky on star eating planet, B w TT
06:43.969 Donnie-car accident review "spit up?" TT-split? OOF? TimC TomW ChuckMcP coming in
08:05.050 CM, TC in, BruceM on phone
09:14.560 TomW in
09:30.607 B-TW instructor at Westmont, admires Maureen at Dr. Spann, TW-TimC wants to talk about Hale telescope, BruceM was instructor EE at UCSB
11:18.377 1. TT mentions Docent meeting at Museum, intros attendees, BruceM theater organ society program coming up. Refugio outreach discussed. B-Alpha Centauri? CM-cannot see it from here. Proxima small red dwarf. Alpha means? CM-term can be confusing, alpha should be brightest. TimC Telescope workshop Tuesday evenings, TomW started 2003, JerryW also, TT takes photos. Jurgen put together 13" telescope on a shoestring. Amateur Telescope Makers are creative. BM-MikeC using sonotube, cardboard tube. B-grinding glass? coat w/ aluminum back? CM-front surface TC-1st surface. TW-instruct how to start a mirror thru testing, then aluminized somewhere. Alcoat.net for a song. 10" about $50. evaporation process. TC-the astrovaganza demonstrating mirror grinding, have to explain reflector vs refractor, used to be metal surfaces not glass. Silver coating, CM-can be explosive! TC-1st glass mirrors were silvered. BM-bath mirrors are silvered.
26:11.408 2. music: up on the rooftop. TimC roof was like bed of nails, steady binoculars with thumbs on eye sockets. CM-prism used. TT-what is advantage of using two eyes? BM-more info to brain. TT-light loss due to prism? CM-Yes, story of outhouse binoculars. TimC- Hale telescopes 5800ft. B-pickled okra in Julian. TC-want to do a presentation on telescopes someday. Another Hale on Mt. Wilson, cast from Champagne bottles. Richie argued with Hale, so became a Cassegrain. Hubble sat up in primary position. 1918 start thru WWII and dedicated in 1948. TC-born 4 days earlier. B-Hubble known for expansion of universe? CM-Yes. TC-adaptive optics is latest improvement on telescopes. TW-Sodium in atmosphere that laser hits, CM-from meteorites.
35:48.477 3. music: Bolero B-occultating right now. AU name history. CM-bird eggs on front of museum with wings. Dr. Whittemore, B-wants to hear conversations. TimC-telescope workshop, did Food Dud for Star B Q. CM-Come to Cachuma Oct 29 w/o need to sleep over. B-banks of empty lake. B-save money making own telescope? TimC-buy separate parts, grind own mirror, $230 with a coating. CM-most precise thing made by hands. TC-if I can do it, any one can. TomW said surface is so fine, surface if one mile wide, bumps only 17 thousandths high. TC-Hale 2/1,000,000s of an inch. CM-making a bowl. TC-walk around a barrel to randomize surface. Controlled chaos, like dealing with kids. TW-tumbling garnet in water. TC-cerium oxide on pitch, like a tree sap. Polish glass, smearing glass around. B-only one at a time at the Museum? Broder. Potluck at MacVeagh house...probably lived in by the MacVeagh's.
44.59.152 4. 2001 music. intros...B-speakers? TT-LCOGT Street, Greenstreet, Pluto. B-occultation is an eclipse. CM-occultations, small asteroid in front of a point source of star light. IOTA. TC-I know very little, these guys correct me all the time. CM-you are wrong, you know a lot! CM-1M miles ave distance btw asteroids. B-Saturn rings? CM-very close. B-rings common? CM-asteroid very had one. BM-outer planets have rings CM-found by occulations also. B-aluminum is used for coating mirrors? BM-silver tarnishes, SiO coating aluminum. TC-high vacuum chamber needed. BM-Alcoat prices $75 for 10" mirror. B-refracting? problems BM-glass bends various freq of light differently. CM-refractors 2-300ft long. TW-Newton solved problem with reflector. B-Quartz crystals? BM-Cadillac of mirrors. TC-Hale telescope was going to be fused quartz, but went to Pyrex Corning NY.
54:07.968 5. music: Thus Spach Zarathustra? B-DQ commerc using this music BM-1975 telescope. B-bigger the better? BM-mixed bag CM-quality goes up by the square of size. B-LCOGT? 1M telescopes CM-watch something continuously. TimC Chuck does so much for outreaches and IOTA. B- TT-Westmont this Friday.
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160912 KZSB SBAU radio show notes (9am actual show start 11:18.377)
00:00.000 Baron talks w TomT; tells story of nice lady from Ventura in planetarium that he did not get a chance to talk to.
04:52.377 Earth Sky on star eating planet, B w TT
06:43.969 Donnie-car accident review "spit up?" TT-split? OOF? TimC TomW ChuckMcP coming in
08:05.050 CM, TC in, BruceM on phone
09:14.560 TomW in
09:30.607 B-TW instructor at Westmont, admires Maureen at Dr. Spann, TW-TimC wants to talk about Hale telescope, BruceM was instructor EE at UCSB
11:18.377 1. TT mentions Docent meeting at Museum, intros attendees, BruceM theater organ society program coming up. Refugio outreach discussed. B-Alpha Centauri? CM-cannot see it from here. Proxima small red dwarf. Alpha means? CM-term can be confusing, alpha should be brightest. TimC Telescope workshop Tuesday evenings, TomW started 2003, JerryW also, TT takes photos. Jurgen put together 13" telescope on a shoestring. Amateur Telescope Makers are creative. BM-MikeC using sonotube, cardboard tube. B-grinding glass? coat w/ aluminum back? CM-front surface TC-1st surface. TW-instruct how to start a mirror thru testing, then aluminized somewhere. Alcoat.net for a song. 10" about $50. evaporation process. TC-the astrovaganza demonstrating mirror grinding, have to explain reflector vs refractor, used to be metal surfaces not glass. Silver coating, CM-can be explosive! TC-1st glass mirrors were silvered. BM-bath mirrors are silvered.
26:11.408 2. music: up on the rooftop. TimC roof was like bed of nails, steady binoculars with thumbs on eye sockets. CM-prism used. TT-what is advantage of using two eyes? BM-more info to brain. TT-light loss due to prism? CM-Yes, story of outhouse binoculars. TimC- Hale telescopes 5800ft. B-pickled okra in Julian. TC-want to do a presentation on telescopes someday. Another Hale on Mt. Wilson, cast from Champagne bottles. Richie argued with Hale, so became a Cassegrain. Hubble sat up in primary position. 1918 start thru WWII and dedicated in 1948. TC-born 4 days earlier. B-Hubble known for expansion of universe? CM-Yes. TC-adaptive optics is latest improvement on telescopes. TW-Sodium in atmosphere that laser hits, CM-from meteorites.
35:48.477 3. music: Bolero B-occultating right now. AU name history. CM-bird eggs on front of museum with wings. Dr. Whittemore, B-wants to hear conversations. TimC-telescope workshop, did Food Dud for Star B Q. CM-Come to Cachuma Oct 29 w/o need to sleep over. B-banks of empty lake. B-save money making own telescope? TimC-buy separate parts, grind own mirror, $230 with a coating. CM-most precise thing made by hands. TC-if I can do it, any one can. TomW said surface is so fine, surface if one mile wide, bumps only 17 thousandths high. TC-Hale 2/1,000,000s of an inch. CM-making a bowl. TC-walk around a barrel to randomize surface. Controlled chaos, like dealing with kids. TW-tumbling garnet in water. TC-cerium oxide on pitch, like a tree sap. Polish glass, smearing glass around. B-only one at a time at the Museum? Broder. Potluck at MacVeagh house...probably lived in by the MacVeagh's.
44.59.152 4. 2001 music. intros...B-speakers? TT-LCOGT Street, Greenstreet, Pluto. B-occultation is an eclipse. CM-occultations, small asteroid in front of a point source of star light. IOTA. TC-I know very little, these guys correct me all the time. CM-you are wrong, you know a lot! CM-1M miles ave distance btw asteroids. B-Saturn rings? CM-very close. B-rings common? CM-asteroid very had one. BM-outer planets have rings CM-found by occulations also. B-aluminum is used for coating mirrors? BM-silver tarnishes, SiO coating aluminum. TC-high vacuum chamber needed. BM-Alcoat prices $75 for 10" mirror. B-refracting? problems BM-glass bends various freq of light differently. CM-refractors 2-300ft long. TW-Newton solved problem with reflector. B-Quartz crystals? BM-Cadillac of mirrors. TC-Hale telescope was going to be fused quartz, but went to Pyrex Corning NY.
54:07.968 5. music: Thus Spach Zarathustra? B-DQ commerc using this music BM-1975 telescope. B-bigger the better? BM-mixed bag CM-quality goes up by the square of size. B-LCOGT? 1M telescopes CM-watch something continuously. TimC Chuck does so much for outreaches and IOTA. B- TT-Westmont this Friday.
57:25.350 end